Emory or Rice?

<p>I believe I said you'd receive a great education at either; I was just clarifying Rice's strengths because I really don't think people know about Rice as well as people "hear" about Emory. People simply dismiss Rice without really knowing about it and that's why I felt that I should give some input here. Rice is terribly underrated. I don't attend Rice (yet) but I'm very enthusiastic about it!</p>

<p>I believe an educated, informed decision is the best decision. That is, you should know the most possible about each school and actually WHY you're choosing one school to go to over another, precisely why you don't want to go to X University, etc because we're talking about the next four years of your life - a pretty big deal.</p>

<p>Once again, it is your decision. Both are great schools. I'm just giving you reasons why I'd prefer Rice over Emory. </p>

<p>And I disagree with some of the points the above poster has stated... but I won't refute them because really, either choice is a good one. Of course, you'll hear bias from either side (I am admittedly biased to Rice, what can I say) but the choice is yours--visit both schools if you can to get the most accurate feel for each campus' environment.</p>

<p>Good luck to you!</p>

<p>Thanks everyone! These comments have actually been pretty helpful...now if only I could stop being so indecisive...</p>

<p>As a current Emory parent, I would like to make a couple of points:</p>

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<li><p>Rice is much smaller than Emory. My d considered Rice briefly but really wanted a mid-sized university. </p></li>
<li><p>My d prefers the freshman housing, sophomore housing, etc. If you are in a bad situation freshman year the situation changes the next year. Also, the freshman housing has programs targeted to freshman and the sophomore housing has programming targeted to sophomores.</p></li>
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<p>SAT Ranges:
Emory: 1300-1470
JHU: 1290-1500
Cornell: 1290-1500
Rice: 1310-1530
Penn: 1330-1520</p>

<p>hotasice is feeding us biased information. Rice is definitely not on par with duke; quit saying that!</p>

<p>Since when is a school ranked at 17 on par with 8? :confused:</p>

<p>Also, why would anyone post the Princeton review's rankings? I mean, those are awfully skewed. All it takes is for 2-5 college students to post negative or ultra positive things about one's school to skew the rankings off by 5 points. Those rankings are just as biased as what you are saying.</p>

<p>Lastly, i dont know why anyone would attend a school with a name of a food on it.</p>

<p>By the way, Emory and Rice offer roughly the same number of natural sciences, music, business, humanities, and social science majors. The reason that Rice has more majors is because they aren't primarily a liberal arts school at the UG level. Rice has engineering, architecture, etc. That could be important if someone wanted to study engineering, architecture, etc.</p>

<p>You sound really intelligent donjuan78. So you disregard Princeton Review's rankings but hypocritically highlight USNWR rankings? </p>

<p>Columbia is ranked lower than Duke, so you're saying Duke is better than Columbia? Rankings are pretty much BS if you're talking about top 20 schools. Each school goes up or down every year--interesting fact: Rice was ranked higher than Columbia in the 1995 rankings. Times have largely changed since then. WashU now has broken into the top 15, and it was relatively unheard of decades ago.</p>

<p>If you look on other threads, a lot of people have gotten into Duke but waitlisted at Rice, and vice versa. The biggest application overlap schools with Rice include Harvard, Stanford, and Duke. </p>

<p>If you take the USNWR rankings as gospel you are an idiot. Rice students receive just as quality education as Duke. I've even had some friends who've turned down Cornell to go to Rice, but Cornell is ranked higher than Rice, so omg they are so not on par!</p>

<p>And Rice is definitely on par with Duke. It's just as hard to get into Rice as it is to get into Duke, and no you can't say the same about Emory. I'm sorry. Have you applied to Rice? Have you gotten in? Or applied to Duke? No, so you can't offer a credible opinion. Rice is #2 school in South, and Emory behind it and Vanderbilt too.</p>

<p>I wonder why if Emory is so great why Emory isn't in any of those Princeton Review rankings? Why wouldn't Emory students rank Emory the highest?</p>

<p>Yeah, that's what I thought. If Emory was ranked highly you wouldn't be disregarding PR rankings. You'd be touting them too. And many, many schools refer to PR rankings (like UT has #1 job placement) so I guess that just leaves you who wants to remain ignorant and think Emory is god or something (omg rankings mean BS but look we're ranked higher than X University on USNWR!).</p>

<p>You're extremely stupid if you take the name of a university in vast consideration over the quality of the school. Would you say the same thing about Brown University? How about Carnegie Mellon? Oh yeah, what dumb names...a university named like a color and another that sounds like a watermelon. OMG why would anyone attend such a school! Or, omg a school has the name GEORGE in it (Georgetown, George Washington) I hate the name George therefore those schools suck!</p>

<p>You sound incredibly intelligent and mature.</p>

<p>If you're going to make a counterargument, at least make it cogent and logical--not "oh who wants to go to a school whose name has a food in it."</p>

<p>What an idiotic statement.</p>

<p>And when I said Rice had more diverse majors, I meant that there was more variety of people doing different things, like engineering, architecture, premed, etc. versus Emory students doing mainly premed and business.</p>

<p>Emory is a great school, though. I don't want to come off as overbearing. I mean, I applied to Emory as well, just because it was a comparable school to schools like WashU that I also applied too. I actually find it most similar to WashU because of both schools' primary strengths in business and premed.</p>

<p>I'm actually having a quite difficult time choosing between WashU, Northwestern, and Rice...heavily leaning towards Rice right now, but who knows.</p>

<p>I am not feeding you overly biased information--the poster above yours stated the SAT ranges as said in my argument. Numbers don't lie, unfortunately.</p>

<p>Kiplinger just named Rice #5 best value school.
"The top four spots on Kiplinger’s new ranking are held by Caltech, Yale, Princeton and MIT. Rounding out the top 10 with Rice are Harvard, Dartmouth, Duke, Emory and the University of Pennsylvania. Last year Rice was No. 4 on Kiplinger’s list. </p>

<p>Rice is ranked as the No. 1 best value among private college in the 2008 edition of the Princeton Review’s “America’s Best-Value Colleges.”"</p>

<p>Rice</a> ranked No. 5 best value by Kiplinger | EDUCATION | KHOU.com | News for Houston, Texas</p>

<p>Money is a big factor for me, so maybe that's why I'm so enthusiastic about Rice ;)</p>

<p>^^^ wow! you're good at debating! :)</p>

<p>Just jumping in to referee a little. I have a s at Rice and one who expects to hear from Emory in the next few days. And, we live in Atlanta. It is a tough choice you face, carafull, and a wonderful, enviable position to be in. Is there any one thing that separated the 2 for you? Are you outgoing? Do you enjoy the "family" feel? I think both schools are excellent. Personally, I love the Res. College system, the incredible loyalty each student develops to its college at Rice. I must also say that Rice does an incredible job of matching roommates, and their orientation week is excellent. Personally, I think there is a special comeraderie with the res college system that you don't get with single grade dorms, but that said, there is a separate comeraderie that the greek system offers that is good in its own right. </p>

<p>Negatives?? There is a lot of construction going on at Rice. There is at Emory as well, but I don't think its as omnipresent. As for Emory? Traffic and parking stink. Rice has Rice Village-- the shops across from Emory are about to undergo a renovation and the zoning is still being battled out (liquor license issues). Both cities have wonderful resources. Rice's acces to public transportation is better that Emory's. Hope this helps some in the decision....good luck!</p>

<p>I am outgoing, but it takes me a little bit to break out of my shell. In other words, I'm friendly, but not crazily outgoing. I like to hang out with people and go to parties, but not every day. I guess I'm pretty normal on that front. I do love the family feel. I go to an extremely small high school, so a sense of community is very important. I guess with Rice I'm just a little nervous about being so far away from home since i live in Florida. I guess I'll just go to Owl Days and see if I love it!</p>

<p>haha rice is on not on par with duke. haha I don't think that is arguable.</p>

<p>and there's nothing wrong with the name "Rice"</p>

<p>those are just 2 pointless things some poeple have posted on here</p>

<p>carafull: Don't worry about not knowing people. At Rice you will know everyone. I didn't visit RIce before I came here and I was nervous about meeting poeple. But as soon as I got to Rice for Orientation I felt so welcomed. There were at least 15 people who I met within 5 minutes that knew who I was before I knew who they were (they were advisors, masters, RA's college coordinators). I don't think it's possible to feel alone at Rice. The College System is amazing, and before the upperclassmen have moved back in, you already know 100 people, it's so awesome! I hope you have fun at Owls Days! I will be hosting on one of the days and I can't wait!</p>

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haha rice is on not on par with duke. haha I don't think that is arguable.

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Well, I think I could argue that. What makes schools "on par" with one another is very subjective.</p>

<p>rice is definately up there with duke. emory not so much.</p>

<p>dont curse me or anything, i got into both schools</p>

<p>Rice is definitely on par with Duke. Since when are some magazine's rankings the only measure of a school's excellence?</p>

<p>If you do not use a magazine's rankings, how else would you measure a school's excellence? Personal opinion? Personally, I have never thought Rice to be on the same level as Duke. I have always known Duke to be better. That is my own personal opinion, though. </p>

<p>(I am not saying that the magazine is the end-all-be-all. I am just saying that there is no true way to measure how good a school is. At least the magazine uses actual numerical data.)</p>

<p>I live in Atlanta and I'm matriculating at Rice in August. I didn't even apply to Emory largely because I wanted to get away, but here are some other reasons.</p>

<p>I absolutely love Atlanta, but, after visiting, I like Houston a lot, too. The two cities are actually rather similar...modern, transient, and sprawling. I felt very at home in Houston in the horrible traffic and the desolate downtown area. No one goes to downtown Atlanta unless they work there...hangouts are Buckhead, Midtown, Virginia-Highland, and Little Five Points. Based on what I heard from Rice students when I visited, Houston has similar, more peripheral hotspots. While this may seem strange to students from other cities (especially those in the northeast), this is simply how the two cities have manifested due to extreme growth over the past 20 years or so. This lack of a true downtown, however, is beginning to change in both cities due to the influence of the New Urbanism movement.</p>

<p>Oh yeah, if you want to relax for a weekend, Rice is only 50 miles from the beach in Galveston, and 160 miles from great college parties and live music in Austin. Emory is 250 miles from Savannah, the only other worthwhile city in GA. Well, I guess you could count Athens--another good college town. But, it doesn't really compare to Austin. Also, the North GA mountains are an hour or two away. It's really pretty up there, but I'm a beach kind of guy.</p>

<p>That being said, there is one thing I like about Rice's location in Houston better than Emory's in Atlanta. In order to get just about anywhere from Emory's campus (even the city center of Decatur), you have to take a bus, shuttle, or car. A lot of Rice students don't have cars and don't feel like they need them. Rice is much closer to "the action" in Houston while Emory is more reserved. Plus, knowing a LOT of kids who go to Emory, campus life there often leaves something to be desired, and a lot of them end up wishing they had brought their cars. They often complain of the same cliques throwing the same kinds of parties every weekend. This is not to say that parties at Emory suck (I've been to plenty...they know how to throw down), but just that the Rice social scene seems to have more options. It's hard to beat the camaraderie and uniqueness of the Residential College System (I absolutely love all of Rice's quirky traditions), and Rice, again, is really close many of Houston's cultural activities (museums, parks, nightlife, and shopping). Lastly, Emory students have absolutely no school spirit/pride. If you're into that, you may feel somewhat disconnected. Rice, on the other hand, bleeds blue and gray. Everyone is extremely proud of their university, its athletic teams (esp. baseball), and their residential colleges.</p>

<p>Academically, the schools are pretty different, but both have a lot of strengths.</p>

<p>Yes, Rice is known for engineering, architecture, music, and the hard sciences, but the humanities and social sciences there are extremely underrated. I'm choosing Rice as a Hispanic Studies major (intended) over Claremont McKenna (the government/polisci liberal arts powerhouse of the west coast) not only because I like the social scene at Rice, but because Rice has stellar language and area studies departments, in addition to the Baker Institute and a top-notch Political Science program. </p>

<p>Emory is famously great for business and the natural sciences, but they also have great programs in just about every other department. I know people there for music, philosophy, biology, and African Studies...each of them have great things to say about the high quality of education they're receiving. If you're planning on going to Emory for engineering however, beware. Their engineering department, well, doesn't exist. This means you will have to do joint-enrollment with Georgia Tech. I know even more kids at Tech than I do at Emory, and most of them are miserable. Academic and even social life at Tech is very "sink-or-swim," and it is (esp. the intro courses) notorious for grade deflation. They're only there because it's ridiculously cheap in-state and because their engineering programs are highly acclaimed. So, if you want to go to Emory for its personalized private school status, you should avoid Tech at most if not all costs.</p>

<p>Still, I like Rice. The faculty seems to be teaching you on a more personal level there, classes are smaller, and their graduation requirements give you more freedom. Emory seems to make you take a lot of core classes that might be frustrating if you can't exempt some of them with AP credit. </p>

<p>And, yes, being from the south, I can say that Rice does take the #2 spot behind Duke in the ranking of the "Southern Ivies," especially in the eyes of southerners. Emory, however, is very close at #3. I'd say Vanderbilt is #4, but I'd understand its placement as a tie with Emory. I think the reason why a lot of people may put Vandy before Emory or even Rice is because of sports publicity and some of their grad programs. Undergad, however, is a whole different story. Rice has an unparalleled undergrad experience that may place it right up there with Duke's because Duke also focuses a lot on grad programs. I'm not a huge fan of taking rankings too seriously in any sense, but they're somewhat useful.</p>

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<p>Weighing in on Rice on par with Duke. I can speak with some experience on that one. Four family members are Duke grads, including daughter and son-in-law. One son is a GaTech BSME. One son is a recent Rice BioE grad. For quality of undergraduate teaching , faculty access (particularly in the sciences), diversity, academic environment, and access to undergrad research and internships (again in engineering and the bio sciences) Rice is in a league of its own. It is also one of the friendliest campuses anywhere. Duke is great. Rice is amazing.</p>