Engineering questions for a working father of two

<p>Hi everyone,</p>

<p>I am a long time stalker, but first time poster. I have to warn everyone that my post may be a bit long, but I feel that I must give background information for everyone to understand where I am coming from. I have been a mechanic since I have been 14. I worked from that age also nearly full time in high school. I started in this triple A honors program when I started school and discovered alcohol and sex in 10th grade and ended up just passing HS. I got out of the program and ended up in a two year share time program with the local technical school and had two year certificate in automotive technology after leaving the honors program. Since 16, I have had a complete set of shop equipment and probably about $30,000 in hand tools alone not including welders, etc. I have always been fascinated with motors, rebuilding and performance, dirt bikes, metalurgy, etc. I decided I did not want to go to college and wanted to work in a trade because of not really having any guidance from my parents, I just have/had a great work ethic and being good with my hands. I figured since my grades slid I did not think I could get accepted into a school.</p>

<p>Fast forward to about 6 months after high school graduation and I enlisted in the Marine Corps because of actually looking into how much college actually cost, and not wanting my grades to suffer due to working full time/school full time like in high school. I ended up pretty high on my asvab and my GT scores were very good, especially for the Marines. I think my asvab was somewhere in the 90's and GT was around 115. I wanted to be a combat engineer for just the fact of doing something different than the norm. My recruiter completely talked me out of it and told me aviation was the way to go. I did not even know the Marines had aircraft lol. I listened to him and I ended up with the MOS (job code) of 6256- KC-130 Airframe Mechanic-hydraulics and sheet metal.</p>

<p>I served from Nov. 2005-Nov.2010. I served two tours in Iraq in 2007-2008, and one when the draw down occurred in 2009. I earned the GI bill 100% while in and took some courses while in. With the numerous deployments and work up detachments to Arizona for Desert training it was nearly impossible to complete anything while I had free tuition assistance. I should also mention I had gotten married and had a baby in the meantime as well while in. I ended up getting out in 2010 because of the horrible deployment cycle, working the night shift for years, not being able to see my family, Afghanistan, etc. My body just hurt and I could not see myself doing it for 15 more years, the Pft's were getting harder because of some serious pain in my ankles and constant back issues. So I got out. </p>

<p>After I got out of the Marines, I went to the Va to get an exam to check my problems that I was having while I was in. I was a young guy and it should not hurt getting out of bed i n the morning. They told me I had tendinitis in my ankles and a disk was deteriorated in my lower back. They take care of me and provide decent healthcare, and if the problems get worse everything is covered. I am writing this due to the fact that I kind of need to find a new career due to not being able to sustain a physical career for the next 40 years or more and that leads me into where I am today.</p>

<p>I was taking classes at Embry-Riddle worldwide in Ft. Lauderdale, due to fact that I was in aviation and they gave me a lot of credits for my military experience for a faster track to graduation. I also had my son when I got out of the Marines. After about a year going to Embry Riddle, I have decided I did not want to pursue aviation anymore due to the instability and the chop shop/outsourcing mentality, and the physicality of the work. I currently work at a job that is not that strenuous where I work in the assembly department of a messier dowty/ falcon jet subsidy in south Florida. It's air conditioned, and I work at a bench with a chair and work bench. It is mainly landing gear and flight controls. I am an ISO 9110 internal auditor for the company and am training to be an IA level 2. I have all my credentials for my airframe and powerplant certificate. It is steady work at my company with a pension, excellent benefits, good work/life balance, but the pay has a lot to be desired especially with my experience/knowledge. I just recently found out about two weeks ago that my wife and I are expecting another baby and this unexpected.</p>

<p>I have taken some accounting courses at Embry-Riddle and I really enjoyed them so I switched to an online program at Florida Tech for a BA in Accounting. My plan was to get my CPA and I have to get my masters in order to get licensed in FL due to the 150 credit hours. I have been reading posts all over the internet and I have been driving myself nuts trying to figure out what I am going to do in this current economic mess we are in. Gone are the days of being able to get a degree and start entry level. You must know someone to get you in the door, then you are low balled with salary, even with some experience. Everyone knows how bad things are now. I don't need to go into it. I have been attending FL tech for 2 semesters and I think school online is tough. That program is pretty good though because of the streamed lectures, course material, and tutoring they offer. I don't have any accounting experience though besides doing taxes for everyone in my family and setting up a small business I run on the side. I don't know if I am making the right choice. I like it a lot, but my true passion is mechanical engineering. I always wanted to work for Nasa as a kid growing up in FL. I need to decide if I should transfer again to an engineering program. I kind of need the GI bill money to help support my family and it is tough deciding this because it is tough studying for the math for engineering while taking a full load of courses and working full time. I found a program from old dominion university with a general engineering technology-electromechanical systems engineering, and one from University of North Dakota fully online with on campus labs. ODU program is non abet, but UND is abet accredited. The ODU program is catered to military/prior military with lab kits, course and streamed lectures. The UND program not all classes are offered every semester and you have to go there in the summers for labs. I know Abet is important and Florida is kind of tough getting a PE license without an abet degree. I don't plan on living in FL forever though. </p>

<p>My big question here is what I should do. I also can graduate from Embry Riddle within a year if I transfer back and then go an pursue my engineering degree afterwards as a second bachelor student. I have about 48 credits left for graduation there. I am just lost and need some guidance. I have a lot of shop experience within the aviation and automotive industries, and also have an active secret security clearance. I just want to put food on my table for my kids and wife, not looking to make a killing. Money is not everything, time with your family is to me anyway. I just don't want to hate going to work everyday. I am under the gun as well because my GI bill will run out if I keep taking classes. Any advice is appreciated and sorry for the long post. Thank you!</p>

<p>I read through my post and it does look a bit sloppy. Sorry, I was trying to get everything out all at the same time while typing.</p>

<p>I’m a Navy veteran and also worked in aviation. Worked on the COD actually :slight_smile: I too got out for medical reasons. I am currently pursuing my electrical engineering degree so I think I can help a lot!</p>

<p>The first thing you have to decide is what do you want to do? Where do you want to end career wise? </p>

<p>Engineering has best long term prospects, but it is a lot of work. Do you have the technical background? Just for the pre major, you will need Calc I, II, III / Physics I, II / Chem I / Statics and Dynamics for mechanical engineering. </p>

<p>If your goal is to get a good job and provide your family, and you don’t care what your degree is in… I would leverage the courses you already have and maybe do Computer Information Systems. It combines business and computers and you learn programming, database, and IT stuff. Avg pay is what 50-80k just for a bachelors? And it’s a desk job. You probably have already completed 50 to 75% of the courses already (accounting, economics, gen ed classes)</p>

<p>I would do that to hurry up and get a good paying degree that adds a somewhat technical background. There are dozens of online programs to choose from. </p>

<p>Send me a msg if you have any questions and I would be happy to help you out in deciding.</p>

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<p>No-brainer, finish your ME degree. Think of it as an investment in your kids.</p>

<p>Don’t worry so much about finding a job after graduation. With your security clearance and prior service, you will be in demand. Companies get bonus points for hiring veterans. My father-in-law did a similar thing after his Army years and worked for 30 years for one of the US arsenals.</p>

<p>Thanks for both of your inputs. I have been in contact with lookin4ward all day through email. The truth is I really want to pursue the ME degree, the problem is the time I have is absolutely none and I can’t stand the job I am working in. I hate it. I just wish I could finish the degree faster and get out there and work. My wife is pregnant and I need the insurance for the kids and her. It is a stressful situation. I am just grateful to have the job and the benefits they offer at the moment because I could be unemployed going through this.</p>

<p>I already asked lookin4ward about this, but I am pretty close to finishing my degree in Aeronautics before I transferred out of Embry Riddle, should I finish it and go on to a masters in ME. I am probably going to have to take a few math courses to get admitted to a masters, but what does everyone think?</p>

<p>How many classes in the Aeronautics degree are in mechE? I couldn’t find it on the website and didn’t want to go into the catalog. </p>

<p>I think it would be a waste. And Embry Riddle aint cheap. You would have to make up classes you would have to take anyway, so you would be throwing a lot of money into a degree you don’t want or will use. </p>

<p>If you live in south florida, FIU has an engineering program in Miami. Just take your pre reqs at night at a community college- most have a lot of the pre engineering classes. </p>

<p><a href=“https://ugrad.fiu.edu/advising/UCC-plans%20PDFs/56-UCC-Mechanical%20Engineering.pdf[/url]”>https://ugrad.fiu.edu/advising/UCC-plans%20PDFs/56-UCC-Mechanical%20Engineering.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You are making it harder than it is…you are trying to rush your degree, and I think that is a bad idea. Search around and you can find a lot of math classes online. Don’t be afraid to use loans either. You are investing in your future, and an engineering degree will earn you many more times that.</p>

<p>Thanks for everyone’s advice. I appreciate it. I am rushing it I admit it. The major concern for me is my family and mainly when I am in my 50’s as a senior engineer, I am not laid off like these horror stories I keep reading and not being able to find work due to age discrimination. I am one to say nothing is impossible, but the economy today is strange and I don’t really know how to predict what is to come.</p>

<p>You’re going to have to sacrifice a little family time to finish your school. I mean family is important, but wouldn’t it benefit them more if you “disappear” for 2-4 years to finish school, and be financially stable? </p>

<p>I’m 25 years old with 3 kids; my oldest is about to be 8 in Jan., the other two are 4 and 5. I’m also doing an engineering degree with a 30-32 hrs/week job. Last 2 years for me was 8am-11pm for a year then 11-9:40pm. I don’t really get to see them much since I started school and they themselves are in school, but I know this little time away from them will pay off.</p>

<p>Aren’t military suppose to be on Tricare? I work as a Pharmacy Tech. Choose the degree that will get you the best opportunity. Money isn’t everything, but in my Pharmacist situation, his wife have a Bachelor in “business?” – I can’t remember. But her job pays what she would have to spend for their 2 kids to be in daycare, thus, they decided it’s best she’s stay home with kids. So just be aware.</p>

<p>I also was going to pursue an accounting degree but compare it to a petroleum engineering degree the pay is almost double with same amount of education. I like working in the pharmacy but I’m not going to go to school for 6 years to be a pharmacist to earn as much as a petroleum engineer which only required 4 years. Good luck to you.</p>