Engineering RD statistics

<p>This is from the SCEA admits (Princeton</a> University - Princeton offers early action admission to 726 students for Class of 2016:%5DPrinceton">http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S32/39/75S56/index.xml?section=topstories):)&lt;/p>

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Twenty-three percent of the admitted students indicated they want to study engineering.

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<p>Typically Princeton Engineering only comprises 17% of the school, and in past years only 19% of students admitted have planned to pursue engineering. This means that to compensate, Princeton is going to have to admit way fewer engineers RD.</p>

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Almost 19 percent of the admitted students plan to pursue B.S.E. degrees, Rapelye said, of which 60 percent are male and 40 percent are female<a href="%5Burl=http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2007/04/03/17914/%5DAcceptance%20rate%20dips%20to%20all-time%20low%20-%20The%20Daily%20Princetonian%5B/url%5D"&gt;/quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>A bit of math:</p>

<p>Number of SCEA admits * yield (of SCEA) * % engineer = number of engineers from SCEA</p>

<p>726<em>(75%)</em>(23%) = 125 </p>

<p>Number of RD admits * yield (of RD) * % engineer = number of engineers from RD</p>

<p>Engineers from RD + those from SCEA = (.19)(1304) = 248</p>

<p>248 - 125 = 123 slots </p>

<p>numb of engineers from RD * (yield^-1) / RD admits</p>

<p>123 (.55^-1) / 1400 = **16%*</p>

<p>This means that normally 19% of Princeton RD admits could be BSE, but now just 16%. Things just got 24% harder for Engineers (1-16/19).</p>

<p>Good post.</p>

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<p>not necessarily so:</p>

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<li>It could very well be that Princeton has decided to allow the engineer percent to increase somewhat in order to compete with the Stanford’s and MIT’s of the world.</li>
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<p>and</p>

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<li>After freshman year, there tends to be a shift from engineering to A.B. once a fair share of potential engineering degree candidates realize that it is not for them.</li>
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<p>Also, why would you assume the yield for engr would
be the same as for the rest of the admits? A little thought
would indicate it would be lower, probably quite a bit.
Example, if you’re a cross admit to Stanford,
MIT, Princeton, then seriously, where would an engr prefer
to go? Probably not PU. But for other majors, perhaps PU
would be the most likely.</p>

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<p>Princeton, of course</p>

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<p>I actually accounted for that and assumed the yield would be somewhat lower at 55%.</p>

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<p>I’m aware of the relatively high attrition rate. However, I only analyzed the percent of accepted students who want to study engineering, not those who actually end up studying engineering. In the past this difference has been 19% vs 17%. That is, only 17/19 = 89% of prospective engineers “survive.”</p>

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<p>possibly, but an official statement of this hasn’t been released</p>

<p>Does anyone have cross-admit statistics between Princeton, Stanford and MIT for admitted students declaring Engineering as their intended major in their applications?</p>

<p>The Engineering experience, and certainly the undergraduate experience in addition, would be quite different between these three schools.</p>

<p>Do you think that an 800M and M2 is practically necessary for Princeton Eng.?</p>

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<p>Overall, Princeton is about 50/50 with MIT on cross admits.</p>

<p>My guess is that a majority of the cross admits are engineering majors</p>

<p>I know this is quite a general question but how would you compare Princeton vs Stanford vs MIT vs Cornell for engineering and campus life? I suppose Cornell is different from the others partly because of the size. My daughter really liked what she experienced during her Princeton campus visit. We are planning a trip to see Cornell and MIT. Obviously, she understands how difficult it is to gain acceptance at any of these schools.</p>

<p>I’m an engineer who chose Princeton over MIT. I picked it because I wanted a more diverse undergrad body (I like taking courses in humanities, talking with humanities people) and, honestly, less pressure. I felt like, despite being a self-proclaimed geek, I would have to be hardcore-nerdy all the time at MIT. But that’s probably just the incorrect impression I got as a prefrosh. Anyway. I think Princeton and MIT are very competitive in computer science, which is what I wanted to do; Princeton’s individual departments are wayyy smaller. Much more 1:1 attention! Also Princeton’s financial aid is a million times better. That said, both are great places, obviously.</p>

<p>I can’t comment on Stanford or Cornell, since I didn’t apply to either.</p>

<p>^^^^I believe that this “diverse undergrad body” is one of the main reasons why Princeton engineering majors chose Princeton over MIT.</p>

<p>I didn’t take an SAT II in Chemistry and Physics. Does this ruin my chances?</p>

<p>It is recommended by every engineering school that you do for Math 2 and Physic/Chemistry :S</p>

<p>Are you certain that this is the case? Because I already got accepted into one school in engineering without an SAT II in physics or chemistry…I took it in Biology because I planned on doing something with biology and engineering.</p>

<p>tkeegan,</p>

<p>Princeton does request that you take either the SAT subject tests Math 1 or Math 2 and either Chemistry or Physics to apply for an engineering program. This is from the Princeton site:</p>

<p>“Applicants who intend to pursue a B.S.E. degree should take one SAT Subject Test in either physics or chemistry and one SAT Subject Test in mathematics (Level I or II).”</p>

<p>[Princeton</a> University | Standardized Testing](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/standardized_testing/]Princeton”>http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/standardized_testing/)</p>

<p>My son didn’t figure this out until pretty late in the game. His counselor called Princeton and they affirmed that he was required to take these tests to apply for engineering, but they cut him a little bit of slack as to when he had to have the scores in by (by “a little bit of slack,” I mean a few days).</p>

<p>OMGOSHHHH :C Is this the same for other colleges as well?</p>

<p>Every college has its own requirements. You need to check carefully the specific requirements of every college to which you apply.</p>

<p>Hey man, for what its worth I called Columbia that also requires physics/chemistry as an sat 2 and I was told that it is still possible to get in. So don’t worry too much about it.</p>

<p>Tiger14: thanks for sharing your experience with Princeton vs. MIT engineering. Your wanting a more diverse student body is definitely on my d’s mind. I think visiting MIT while school is in session will be very interesting for her. Certainly, she would enjoy and adapt at any of these schools (if she were to be admitted). Have you experienced downsides with the small size of Princeton’s engineering program? </p>

<p>Do any of you have comments about the new Single Choice Early Action that Princeton has and how it specifically relates to engineers?</p>

<p>Re: SAT 2 testing-- only some of the highly selective schools require SAT2. It is typically Math level 1 or 2 and a science. I think my d said that Penn specified Physics. She took Biology and Chemistry and Math level 2. There are many schools that don’t require it. It depends which schools you are considering. Also, she found that timing the SAT2 tests for the end of the year was a good idea esp if you are taking AP’s. She found that the Chem SAT was not a big deal because she in the midst of preparing for Chem AP test. If you prepare well for the exams, it should be fine to take them even after an honors level science class. She did that with the Biology.</p>