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<p>Ok…so an OOS public without merit scholarships is going to cost $40k-50k per year. So, estimate nearly 200k for increased costs by the time you would graduate.</p>
<p>Are you saying that your parents will pay $100k…and YOU have $100k saved for your half? </p>
<p>Where did you get that much money???</p>
<p>Case isn’t a safety, but it’s still probably worth applying to. I have a feeling more people are going to apply just because LeBron’s going back to Cleveland.</p>
<p>BTW, it’s a private school so being out of state doesn’t matter. Back when I lived in Ohio, a million years ago, Case was considered the best university in the state.</p>
<p>“Intended major: either mechanical or aerospace engineering”
An earlier post suggested Denison University in Ohio but Denison does not offer any engineering major, only 3+2 engineering with RPI, Wash U , and Columbia (<a href=“http://denison.edu/campus/life-after-denison/graduate--professional-school/pre-engineering”>http://denison.edu/campus/life-after-denison/graduate--professional-school/pre-engineering</a>).</p>
<p>For your safety, you may want to consider UT Dallas. It should be an academic safety for you. Your current ACT score qualifies for the Academic Achievement Scholarship ($6,000 a year). If you can raise your ACT to 32, you may qualify for Academic Distinction Scholarship, which will cover all your tuition and fees and $2,000 a year for books and supplies, which will significantly bring down your COA to a little over $10,000 a year. With ACT 36, one can get more stipend(<a href=“http://oue.utdallas.edu/aes/”>http://oue.utdallas.edu/aes/</a>). UT Dallas is known for its engineering programs. Dallas will provide ample opportunities for internship/research. UTD has rolling admission so you can get admission result in a few weeks after all the application materials are received. </p>
<p>BTW, UT Austin is not easy for OOS students to get in and its COA is higher than UIUC’s and Purdue’s, which you may have better chances to get in and both rank a little higher than UT Austin in your intended majors (<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-mechanical”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-mechanical</a> and <a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-aerospace-aeronautical-astronautical”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-aerospace-aeronautical-astronautical</a>). </p>
<p>For out-of-state public universities, consider U of Minnesota and Iowa State. Both have very good engineering programs plus the college experience you may like, and they cost you about the same as UIUC. Purdue, U of MN, and Iowa State can be considered as your matches. </p>
<p>This is what drives me crazy. A kid and his parents together determined a budget. They have saved diligently and are looking for quality. He wants academic information, and people keep throwing the University of Alabama at him. </p>
<p>People shop University of Alabama on price.</p>
<p>OP, Purdue really ought to be a safety for you, and is much more nationally respected than the University of Alabama. I think it’s worth the money. </p>
<p>Case is a good suggestion that you should consider also. Otherwise, your original list was perfectly fine in my opinion. You don’t have to retake anything. If you want to throw an extra trivial application out there to help you sleep, Iowa State would give you automatic admissions within 7 weeks of your application. </p>
<p>For the schools on your list, getting your app in early will benefit you. Places like Purdue and Wisconsin are rolling and you can get apply in September. </p>
<p>University of Maryland is probably more of a match than a safety as their engineering program has been getting more and more competitive and it’s a “Limited Enrollment Program.” That being said, it is an excellent program with many internship opportunities, many scholarship opportunities, and many career opportunities. Below is a link to UMD’s scholarships within the engineering department. I encourage you to look at both the scholarships available as a new freshman as well as those available as current engineering students. This will give you an idea of what is out there now in terms of money, as well as future opportunities.
<a href=“Scholarships | A. James Clark School of Engineering, University of Maryland”>http://www.engrscholarships.umd.edu/scholarships</a> </p>
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<p>And it may be…but we dont really know if he can afford it OOS. His parents said that they will pay half. The OP says that he has some money saved, but does he have $80k saved? (if he does, then that is amazing for a 17 year old! 
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<p>@ClassicRockerDad …it really is best for kids to have MORE than one safety when cost can be an issue. We all have seen TOO MANY situations where a student finds that ONLY his ONE safety is affordable…and then he feels railroaded into attending. Just not good for morale. As Americans, WE LOVE CHOICE!!! It makes us feel empowered! :)</p>
<p>(btw…if you think it is “worth the money” to pay more (which could mean big loans) for Purdue, then will you be his lending bank?)</p>
<p>OP…Bama’s app is live now. Apply and have your acceptance and award in hand in a few weeks. Then apply to all the other good suggestions. </p>
<p>The OP politely asked several times to BUTT OUT of his finances. He clearly indicated his price parameters after discussions with his parents. His initial choices are within those parameters. </p>
<p>That doesn’t seem good enough for some of you people. You know better. Don’t you think that after repeated reassurances from the OP that it’s a little patronizing to keep harping on the finances, as though he and his parents are incompetent? </p>
<p>He has an 31 ACT with a 36 on the math. He has a straight-A unweighted GPA. Do you really think there is a chance of him getting rejected by Purdue if he files a proper application before the priority deadline?</p>
<p>He has demonstrated the potential to excel at a top engineering school. </p>
<p>He has indicated that he can afford such a school. </p>
<p>He doesn’t need to settle for Alabama. </p>
<p>My guess is that he gets into ALL of his aforementioned schools. </p>
<p>@ClassicRockerDad, it’s not that I’m nosey. It’s that I don’t want to participate in a continuing fantasy that some students and parents have that they can find a way to afford any college. To my embarrassment, I’ve been one of those parents. I’d just as soon not enable others.</p>
<p>If the student will tell me s/he’s run the npcs, talked to her or his parents, and can spend any amount of money or rec’d from the parents a figure they can contribute for four years, I’m good with that. I think most of us are.</p>
<p>I no more want to contribute to a financial fantasy than you want to contribute to the fantasies of the 3.6 senior who’s sure he can get into harvard with no hook.</p>
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<p>LOL! So don’t participate! </p>
<p>I can stay silent on threads that I don’t think I can contribute to. I highly recommend that you try it sometime. </p>
<p>Why do they need to satisfy your detailed requirements? I generally take posters at their word. </p>
<p>Does your school use Naviance? In addition to being able to help you evaluate which of your selected schools are matches/safeties it also has an “overlap” feature that will bring up other schools that might be of interest to you.</p>
<p>I agree Purdue is a good safety for his stats, plus rolling admission is really great. It’s also great of Aerospace. For some kids, UofA is not in consideration because of the heat. Mine didn’t for that particular reason.</p>
<p>@ClassicRockerDad, do you drive the same way as you post?</p>
<p>Yes I do, I live in Boston, have you seen us drive? :-)</p>
<p>UW-Madison is not a safety for you OOS. It’s a very high-quality school with dozens of top-20-ranked programs, including Engineering.</p>
<p>They give preference to some in-state applicants who drive up the acceptance rate and bring down the test scores (and flunk out…), but that is part of their mission: to give in-staters a shot. Some cannot handle the rigor and/or lifestyle.</p>
<p>I spent three years driving with you guys. I was happy to leave my motorcycle in PA. My rule of thumb approaching an intersection was that if the Bostonian driver thinks that he or she can do something really risky and live to tell about it (regardless of its effect on anyone else), there’s 50/50 chance he or she will. The chances went up if you were approaching a car coming the other way that wanted to make a left in front of you. =)) </p>
<p>How does one region get so many risk-taking drivers? does this risk-taking show up in other areas of their lives? do they have a higher divorce rate? increased psychopathy? Well, they do have the Red Sox fans, always a risky choice. 
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<p>…sounds like my kind of driving environment.</p>
<p>Somewhere between soccer mom minivan and Bangkok. Hehe </p>
<p>Simple! Nobody actually KNOWS the rules of the road, so there is nobody to teach the next generation. </p>
<p>It’s also kind of fun!</p>
<p>This is just the drivers we’re talking about. You ought to see the twisty, narrow, two-lane commuter roads. Or the circle intersections where you’re encouraged to slide and discouraged from braking or signaling, or the flashing green stoplights. Who else has flashing green?! And then there’s the snow and ice and potholes, or frost heaves as the locals call them. Not to mention 93 and 128, where people drive on the shoulders if traffic slows down. I was getting off at an exit one time and had a guy almost run me down because he was on the right shoulder going really fast thru the exit lane. Anyone who knows me will tell you I’m a fast driver, but 80yo Bostonians were a step above my aggressiveness.</p>
<p>What’s your family of four pay for total auto coverage in Boston? I think ours was $1900 for two of us with clean records.</p>
<p>Signs are bad too. Turns are not labeled clearly, you only see it when you pass it. </p>
<p>@BaseballAndMath, your initial list is reasonable as a safety but since engineering is often impacted, you might want to look into other public engineering schools (sounds like you are not that interested in smaller privates where you would probably get significant merit aid) in the midwest. Minnesota and Iowa are both good programs. With your academics, you should be able to get into a number of the ones you have chosen.</p>