<p>Out of curiosity, what school do you go to? I live in the KC area too (attend Shawnee Mission East), and I have similar stats.</p>
<p>Wow! Thanks for the suggestions. I appreciate them. And Cornell does look like a good option, if I could get in. Maybe a tad big, but the fact that it is divided into separate colleges is heartening. Anyone hear anything about Clarkson University in upstate New York? Seems like a decent match to my criteria and easy to get into... And to Toast, I go to Blue Valley West, in Overland Park. I was actually just at SME on Saturday taking a an SAT subject test in chemistry. And to anyone that was wondering, I'm more interested in something like environmental or civil engineering, not really biomedical, electrical or aerospace.</p>
<p>Clarkson is a solid eng school...like Colorado S of M (& Carnegie Mellon), I have some 1st hand experience working w/ some profs & grad students, plus I've hired a number of Clarkson BS civil & env engineers. Those grads are very good hires, tops in the "practical" engineering skills. I little isolated north of the adirondaks, but a very solid env & civil programs. good find! (they have a very good ice hockey team too)</p>
<p>engineering very strong at Bucknell.lacrosse and all sports very successful-the school is the dominant athletic powerhouse of the Patriot League.Army ROTC.Hunting,fishing,mountains,forests,camping,beautiful campus,what's not to like?</p>
<p>I suppose my notions of what size school I wanted are based off of what was recommended to me by a guidance counselor, and while they are good sources of information, they are definitely not the final word. I do want to avoid being just a name and number, which I know happens at large state universities quite often (My mother works in the engineering mgt. dept. at our flagship state school, University of Kansas). I also want to avoid being on a campus with 1,500 kids where you get to feeling 'trapped' and like you want to leave before your four years are up. Cornell, though it has 13,000 or so undergrads, consists of individual colleges with the engineering college enrolling about 3,000. And Clarkson and CSM, predominantly engineering schools, both have about 2,800 undergrads. The U. of Washington has about 5,000 total in its engineering program, undergraduate or otherwise. Bucknell has about 3,400 total, but because it is primarily a liberal arts school, the engineering department only has about 700 students. I guess my point in this rambling is to ask a question: Does the size of the school in total matter much, or is it more the size of the department (individual college within the university) that matters? I suppose I am seeking the middle ground, but how big is too big? And for that matter, how small is constricting? Again, I appreciate all of the help I have been receiving.</p>
<p>Harvey Mudd in CA, perhaps? It's a bit smaller, but is part of the Claremont College consortium which could help make it a bit bigger. Very good school.</p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon has a good engineering program, I think. And Northwestern, which is very hard to get into, but you might as well try!</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>As an engineer,you'll work incessantly,especially at Bucknell.The payoff comes at graduation.Fit is much more important than size.After making your college visits,you'll know which is right for you.For example,at Bucknell,the engineering school and liberal arts school occupy the same gorgeous campus.The students are indistinguishable and mix together in all the school's life-sports,frats,sororities,clubs and organizations,dorms,religious groups,etc.</p>
<p>Thank you Tigers Rule. I wouldn't have wanted to miss all that about Bucknell.</p>
<p>What do you say, folks? Maybe all of us should repost the same message ... oh ... about 20 times each?</p>
<p>Worcester Polytechnic Institute. One of the oldest and best engineering programs. The city is a short drive from skiing in western Massachusetts and Vermont. Rural New England and upstate New York is great for hiking and other warm weather activities, but of course during the warm weather school is out-of-session.</p>
<p>Also, WPI has a broad curriculum with a surprisingly very good arts program and many student activities.</p>
<p>Wow, thanks TigersRule! I guess Bucknell is really all that awesome for you to be able to post the same thing about it 9 times. Although it is overkill, I still appreciate it. And also, if anyone was wondering, I am highly doubtful that I will play lacrosse at the NCAA level in college. Possibly club intercollegiate level, but not anything more competitive than that. Any other good engineering schools out in the west? Or even the southwest? Harvey Mudd sounds decent except that you are required to have taken a calculus course to enroll, which I have not and will not do by such time as I would go there. And yes, I have looked at WPI some. Sounds like a good fit. How about Syracuse? What is their campus setting like? Or Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT)?</p>
<p>oh my god haha</p>
<p><strong>(bump)</strong></p>