Establishing California Residency? Is it possible, special circumstances.

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This is not true for any State I know of. Most, if not all, states let you remain an instate resident if your parents move after you have started college. Check the rules for your state.</p>

<p>It’s not really unfair, you will remain a resident in the state you now live in and where you attended HS. For any student it is very tough to change to in state residency in a new state, even children of divorced parents where the non-custodial parent lived and worked and paid taxes in CA, still they are residencts of their custodial parent state.</p>

<p>The only loophole i can see for you is that they will be living in another country not another state. I would recommend you call the UCB residency office and explaine your situation and ask how you might attain CA residency. You may be required to take time off between HS & university in order to make that happen</p>

<p>I’ve already begun attending my local Community College but if that’s what it takes to obtain CA residency that’s what I’ll have to do. Work for 1 year and apply at the local Community Colleges. But will I seriously be required to stop going to Community College, even part time? I don’t want to completely stop going to school. I don’t want to get that 1 year off and stop going to school forever syndrome. XP. At least I still have a bit of time to find a solution and contact schools. By the way, when you said “UCB” did you mean Berkeley?</p>

<p>No you do not have to stop goign to school, you just have to pay full out of state tuition.</p>

<p>So the basic layout of my plan, please let me know if this DOABLE:</p>

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<li>Move to California in late December of this year.</li>
<li>Register my car and obtain a Drivers License </li>
<li>Ask my aunt if I can put some bills under my name.</li>
<li>Attend Community College part-time and look for a Job FULL time.</li>
<li>Pay rent to my aunt, register to vote, and vote if any elections come up.</li>
<li>Continue working full-time for 1 year with no assistance from my parents.</li>
<li>Pay out-of-state tuition at the college and attend that same college for atleast 2 years after I move.</li>
<li>File independent taxes in 2011 and then again 2012.</li>
<li>Hopefully become a legal resident by fall 2012 or winter 2013 and apply to UCI, UCLA, UCB, UCSD, etc. </li>
<li>Get in-state tuition at those colleges.</li>
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<p>By time I apply to the Universities I will be 20/21 years of age living in California for 2.5 to 3 years total. I think that is sufficient to become an In-State tuition candidate. I will not apply for In-State until I get to the Universities I will manage to pay for the Community Colleges.</p>

<p>Again, the big issue is whether you can be seen as independent before you are 24. At best, this is dicey. Talk to the schools.</p>

<p>Yeah, I will talk to the schools and see whether they can give me incites as to my situation 'cause right now. I don’t really have a choice. If I stay here I could risk loosing my entire education. I’ll give California a try and then if I don’t manage I could always just transfer a Private University that will most likely help me out. Maybe USC?, or others across the country, but I was hoping on getting into UCI which was my number 1 choice.</p>

<p>Think twice abut leaving the state you’re already in, it may well be your only shot at getting in state tuition anywhere if your parents are leaving the Country. You may or may not be able to attend a private school with good financial aid. Most that have good need based aid are very selective.</p>

<p>Have you considered attending community college in your current state part time while working?</p>

<p>I am, but the point is, I don’t have a place to live. Cost of Attendance is relatively close to attending out of state. I spent $2,000 for 17 credit hours at my school, compared to a California Community College which will cost about $3000 for the same hours, and rents run no less then $600-700 a month. FAFSA rates the cost of attendance or the school does and I’ve calculated that it’ll be pretty hard to an apartment and attend school at the same time without falling into debt. If I move to California and don’t get In-State tuition, then what will happen? I will become a resident of no state? I live and pay taxes like any other American and that’d be negating me my rights that are given to any other person. The worst case I believe is that I don’t get In-State tuition and I return here and work my way up attending a cheap college or something. I really don’t know what else to do.</p>

<p>But if you leave your state and try unsuccessfully to establish residency in CA you will close the door on being instate at your current state. So you really need to be very careful.</p>

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Instate residency for tuition purposes is generally based on the state of residency of the parent. It is that way for my kids. It is that way for hmom5’s kids. It is that way for you. It is perfectly fair and does not in any way negate your rights. My daughter would have loved to go to college in Hawaii but she is not a resident of Hawaii so it was not an option financially for us. Fair enough - we, the parents who are responsible for our children, do not live in Hawaii and do not pay the taxes there that support Hawaiian public schools. That is the way it is for everyone. </p>

<p>You are luckier than many people whose parents are working abroad who find themselves in the situation of not being eligible for instate tuition anywhere. You *are *eligible for instate tuition in the State where you currently reside and you will probably maintain that eligibility if you are in school even if your parents move. If you choose to give that up in an attempt to gain residency in another state you will close that door and lose that instate tuition eligibility. Be very careful of the choices you make.</p>

<p>You cannot automatically assume you will pay instate tuition for a CA CC
[CCCApply</a> - Colleges - Frequently Asked Questions](<a href=“http://www.cccapply.org/faq/admissions.asp#2]CCCApply”>http://www.cccapply.org/faq/admissions.asp#2)
Q. Can I attend a California community college if I am not a resident of California?
A. Every California community college admits some nonresident students. The policies on admitting nonresidents vary from district to district. Interested individuals should contact the college’s admission office.
Q. How is California residency determined?
A. The admission officer of each community college determines student residency status, according to state laws and regulations that specify the residency standards. The legal definition of California residency requires at least one year of physical presence in this state, coupled with the capability and the intent to make California one’s permanent home. Contact the college’s admission office for more information about California residency.</p>

<p>Have you checked out one of the CSUs? S was able to establish instate residency after attending one year. Did not have to wait out a year. Did have his own car insurance, but no collision, just liability. Geico insured him for a little over $500/ year, about the same it was costing him to be on our policy.
Of course this was before the current CA financial and economic crisis, so thing might have changed as far as the CSUs go.</p>

<p>jc09jr, When budgeting, you must also consider cost of living. Almost certainly, California is more expensive that whatever state you’re living in now. Also, the California unemployment rate is one of the highest in the country. It is unlikely to go down between now and December. </p>

<p>California’s instate tuition is low (for now), but taking everything into consideration it’s by no means clear that you would save money moving here.</p>

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<p>What if they don’t leave to outside the Country and remain here? Do I loose my eligibility to get in-state tuition at my current state? If California does not accept me as a resident doesn’t that mean that I still have to impose the residency of my parents therefore getting tuition at the price where they live?</p>

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<p>I will be living with my aunt who I assume wont charge me an outrageous amount.</p>

<p>csleslie51-yes I know and I will be paying for it as if I was not a resident of California. I’ve already calculated the costs and it’s nearly the same as instate here where I live.</p>

<p>I thought the whole point of this is that your parents were moving? If they are not then just stay where you are.</p>

<p>they are not 100% sure because of the situation of their job. They said they might leave for 2 years and then come back or just stay it just depends on the situation. They will decide in the next months but the plans are already that they will leave in October.</p>

<p>The bottom line is that you stand a much better chance of getting a reasonably priced education in the state you currently live in. If your parents leave, you can rent a room in someone’s home inexpensively, take fewer classes and work full time. After completing your AA degree, the cost of your in state 4 year school should be doable, living on campus, with reasonable debt.</p>

<p>To move to CA and take the chance should be carefully considered. Unfortunately, that’s the kind of plan that often leaves people without a degree.</p>

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<p>Did you read the part, quoted upthread, about needing to be self-sufficient in order to become a California resident?</p>

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<p>I doubt you can get around this by paying submarket rates to your aunt. That is, when the college sees that you’re paying $200/week, or whatever, for room & board, they’ll know you’re getting subsidized by your relatives.</p>

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What, is that not enough? How much do they expect me to be paying? That’s $800/month nearly 2 times as much as the COA estimates predict a person going to school while living at him. 1 room for $800/month I think should be way more then enough. Heck I believe half that is enough to charged to a person for one room. An entire house is what ~$1600/month? Someone must be crazy to pay that much. All I need is a place to crash at night. She will understand and charge the amount she dictates necessary. She already set a price, if I choose to take it then I will be a renter. She will kick out of her home if she thinks I’m not paying enough or what not in her house. We will sign an agreement/lease to live there.</p>

<p>If your parents leave in October, just exactly who are you going to live with and where? Would you move to California at that time, or stay in your current location?</p>

<p>You need to set up three budgets: one for living and studying at your current in-state location, one for moving to California and paying OOS rates, and one for what life will be like once you are in-state for tuition and fees in California. That way you can think through the financial aspect of all of this with a bit more clarity. Is the move to California because you want to be there, or because it is your only viable option?</p>

<p>You also need to consider the kind of job(s) you can get with a HS diploma once your parents are no longer around. Do you have any workforce skills? Is there time for you to complete a tech ed. program where you live (or at a HS near your aunt) so that you can get a decent job as soon as you graduate? Since you are going to have to be self-supporting, you need to prepare yourself for a decently paying job ASAP.</p>

<p>self-sufficient means you have to provide proof of residency- with a copy of a rent checks, utility bills in your name, etc. Self sufficient means also paying for your own food, insurance, etc, which they also might require if there is any question as to how “independent” you really are. I would be VERY cautious about trying to “game the system” in Calif as many have tried to do in the past. State authorities know that it costs much more than $800/ month to live independently in Calif.</p>