<p>I think the one factor people are forgetting in this Madison debate is that remedial math is not what most think it is, Algebra II is not really “remedial” if the purpose of the class is to cover a math credit for college for non-math dependent majors. Algebra II is sufficient math for say and English major. Our oldest had through pre-calculus in high school, school still required one semester of math for all kids. He took “Principals of Math” because it was easy. I am sure it could be considered “remedial” by some but the school suggests that class to any kid that doesn’t need math in their degree area, so what.</p>
<p>Then, you have to look at where a lot of these kids are coming from. Quite a few come from tiny schools in rural areas where they MIGHT have ONE math teacher and it’s a good chance that math teacher has 4 math classes and one or two science classes to teach. So, every student takes 9th grade math, 10th grade math, 11th grade math, 12th grade math. They might not have had the opportunity to TAKE any calculus in high school.</p>
<p>We have a friend that was a 4.0 grad from Notre Dame, majored in Math there too. He didn’t have an option to take any kind of calculus/pre-calculus in high school so he had to take what you are all calling 'remedial" math his freshman year. So, is he a remedial math student??</p>
<p>Then there are people like me that was jumping for joy because I didn’t have to take math in college AT ALL because I had enough math credits in high school 
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