<p>^^I think he was disagreeing with the "Attempting to force tolerance through mandatory diversification is in my opinion a violation of our rights." part, not the right to hate and discriminate and stereotype.</p>
<h1>The Constitution does not say, "You can neither hate nor stereotype." </h1>
<p>The Constitution also does not say, "You can not murder." We can't legislate morality but, as Newjack stated, it is in our interest as a society to discourage hate, crime, etc.</p>
<p>Hate and altruism, along with many other behaviors, are hard-wired into our evolutionary circuitry. So-much-so that they are being studied and measured in various disciplines including psychology, economics, biology, and game-theory. </p>
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[li]The</a> Marketplace of Perceptions' section on 'The Supply of Hatred'.[/li][li]Generous</a> players: game theory explores the Golden Rule's place in biology[/li][/ul]</p>
<p>Anthropologist and sociologist view hate and altruism through the lens of [url=<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism%5Dtribalism%5B/url">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism]tribalism[/url</a>].</p>
<p>As we peel away the layers of the onion that make us/U.S. what we are, hopefully we'll continue to find more that unites us/U.S. than divides us/U.S.</p>
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Anthropologist and sociologist view hate and altruism through the lens of tribalism.
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<p>Excellent.</p>
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The Constitution also does not say, "You can not murder." We can't legislate morality but, as Newjack stated, it is in our interest as a society to discourage hate, crime, etc.
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<p>I assume the point of your first sentence is, "Since it doesn't say that, does that mean we can murder?"</p>
<p>This isn't the best example to choose because the Constitution does not really concern itself with crime; only a few are explicitly named in the document. On the other hand, the Constitution has ten amendments - the Bill of Rights - that deal with the freedoms all citizens have. And, all citizens have the freedom to hate all people, some people, or no people.</p>
<p>It is in our interest as a society to discourage hate. That doesn't mean that people don't have a right to hate, though.</p>
<p>nobody was saying they don't</p>
<p>Does a Filipino student count as an URM for Ivy League schools? </p>
<p>I mean - how often do you ever see one at an Ivy League? =P</p>
<p>I don't believe so.</p>
<p>Usually when someone mentions URM, it constitutes being black or Hispanic.</p>
<p>i thought they did for schools like stanford?</p>
<p>it probably doesn't if you cehck the box asian/pacific islander</p>
<p>I would like to know this too-- I'm half Filipina, and applied to some Ivies on the slight, maybe slim chance I would get into one.</p>
<p>I doubt it....According to Wikipedia, 48% of Filipinos in the US hold bachelors degrees compared with 50% of Chinese, 44% of Japanese, and 51% of Koreans...</p>
<p>They also have significantly higher average incomes than Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans</p>
<p>Why does everyone want to be URM? I would feel like crap if I got into a college because of URM, maybe other people wouldnt care cause they got in, but for me...yeah. I don't take handouts.</p>
<p>'handouts' is a bit harsh.</p>
<p>seriously that is pretty ignorant. at this point people are using anything they can to get in. Im sorry if you dont have any culture but don't call it handouts</p>
<p>People are jealous, that's why they say things like, "That person only got in because of affirmative action!" They think just because they had a higher GPA or SAT score they deserved the spot more than someone else and find something to pick at. Race just happens to be convinient. Think of it this way, why that hispanic kid? Out of all the hispanic minorities that applied, why that one kid got in over another hispanic kid? I'm sure there was a hispanic kid with a 2400 somewhere that got rejectec over a hispanic kid with lower stats. Race isn't a big a deal as peopl make it out to be.</p>
<p>^I wouldn't go as far as saying "race isn't a big deal as people make it out to be"</p>
<p>According to that Espenshade and Chung study, at elite colleges:
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without affirmative action the acceptance rate for African-American candidates likely would fall nearly two-thirds, from 33.7 percent to 12.2 percent, while the acceptance rate for Hispanic applicants likely would be cut in half, from 26.8 percent to 12.9
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The impact of such policies is indisputable. It's the justification that's up to debate.</p>
<p>MODERATOR'S NOTE TO "Under Represented Minorities" THREAD: </p>
<p>As usual, I'll merge this into the general ethnic self-identification FAQ thread. The specific question that gekko asked to open this thread, premerger, was about whether Filipino-American applicants are considered "underrrepresented" for admission purposes, and the usual problem with such questions is that not many colleges give straight answers to such questions.</p>
<p>That's not exactly true. My last name is not connected to my ethnicity at all.</p>
<p>I don't agree that because you have an advantage that is not related to academics that it's a handout. It depends on what you do with that opportunity, if you are determined to work yourself past your limits constantly redefining yourself and you work hard now and you just happen to be a URM than why not use it? You would have to be an idiot not to use it, you only get this chance once and you need to use any advantage that you have. Furthermore, with the amount of kids that get in because of legacy, is it really fair in the first place?</p>
<p>In the case of the illogical arguement that if you put anything other than human than you must continue that through life, why should one action dictate how we live the rest of our lives- that's a huge stretch and to be candid, retarded.</p>