<p>Dominus, Cuba and Mexico are not considerate as the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere as far as I know.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere.</p>
<p>you mentioned 'dictator' so cuba was the first to come to mind. and Mexico is quite poor.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, my 'race' didn't help me at all.</p>
<p>well i'm lost. Where are you from?</p>
<p>Well you were not the lucky one I guess. My "race" never helped me and I don't think that it will ever. Anyway , I checked "none of your business" (LOL, the other one that says nothing) than I put my citizenship next to it when I was applying . But at least you are a human</p>
<p>i agree. there is only a small, small percentage of blacks living in the us who are actually african american. and why do all the asians get balled up into one culture?? chinese is very different from laotian is very different from indian!</p>
<p>So... is there like a race that colleges prefer? If so, which one? or does it depend on the school?</p>
<p>race is not even a real thing... totally fabricated by us.</p>
<p>culture is of course something to be considered, and worthy of importance to some, but ugh, yea, the whole race thing, used positively or negatively, has got to go. quickly.</p>
<p>I don't even know how to quote people in this forum . "So... is there like a race that colleges prefer? If so, which one? or does it depend on the school?" stone_cutter, I would not be able to tell you which one because I am not a college officer and I would contradict myself if I started to tell by order of preference which race they prefer because I just said that I only know one race which is the human race. I know where you are coming from but if you look into my first post you might guess their favourite so called "race" that according to the person I quoted-the one who lost her admission to Harvard because a "black" person was prefered to the her and the other smartest kid at her HS. By the way, I think that several people will never get credit for who they are and for their intelligence because whenever they make a step above, some people would say, oH! it's because he is "..." . Oh ! I was rejected because I am not"..." feel the empty space with whatever please you</p>
<p>I agree with you. Culture is one thing. "race is not even a real thing... totally fabricated by us." Accepted by you. That's why it keeps going. However I am letting you guys talk about this thing because after all, I am just an outsider</p>
<p>MODERATOR'S NOTE TO "Aren’t you fed up? I am sick of this racial and ethnic thing." THREAD: </p>
<p>As usual, by repeated member request, this thread will be merged with other threads for one-stop-shopping (or one-look-avoiding) of affirmative action threads. I will merge this thread with the FAQ thread on ethnic self-identification in college admission, which has had quite a lot of thoughtful participation by people of varying points of view.</p>
<p><a href="%5Burl=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1060186547-post700.html%5D#700%5B/url%5D">quote</a> I am seriously fed up with all these racial things in the United States. I think that they exist because so many people accept it that way. When colleges ask me what race I am, I feel like telling them</p>
<p>"I am a human, the only race that I know of...
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<p>As has been advocated</a> on this thread before, like-minded applicants that have a revolutionary spirit can actively change the 'race' dynamics by simply self-identifying as human. This one simple act will deny college administrators the 'data'/misinformation they currently utilize for their admittance policies. And once you have done this, don't stop there. Convince your classmates to follow suit...you know...the old 'Actions Speak Louder Than Words' principle.</p>
<p>Think of the possibilities...particularly within the setting of a high school...of a student-driven movement to deny colleges 'race' data. At a minimum, it would make for one hell of an application essay...'How my school grew beyond 'race' and started living Dr. King's dream'. </p>
<p>Many talk of a 'Conversation</a> on Race', but here's an opportunity to actually do something about it.</p>
<p>For more see The</a> Unhyphenated American's Core Principles</p>
<p>Thanks, that sounds good</p>
<p>Would putting "mixed race" be different regarding affirmative action than just putting "Latino"?</p>
<p>LOOK.</p>
<p>I don't know many schools (never mind top schools) that have race quotas.</p>
<p>Affirmative action tends to be socioeconomic/cultural.</p>
<p>Actually, not accepted by me. Er... at least, trying very hard not to accept it. I think it's probably something so instilled through history, that it's there in my head even when I think I don't accept it at all. But whatev, I'm trying to fight it.</p>
<p>And as StitchInTime has advocated, I opted out of identifying with any ethnic group on most of my transfer applications. I think I might've ended up checking caucasian on one or two, but in general it was just extremely weird to me and made me feel uncomfortable, and I wasn't really sure what to do. There was definitely a small part of me that didn't want the colleges to think I was hiding something, or trying to hide the fact that I'm just your average white chick, that kept me from very confidently ignoring that question on every application.</p>
<p>edit: I looked back over my applications and yea, I never checked anything.</p>
<p>As posted on the National Association of Scholars:</p>
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<p>Terry Pell gives the first public analysis of the recent court decision ending (for now) the legal challenges to the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative. </p>
<p>by Terry Pell</p>
<p>Some means are by no means necessary.</p>
<p>Thats what Federal District Court Judge David Lawson decided last month about the efforts of a Michigan advocacy group that calls itself the Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, Integration, and Immigrant Rights and Fight for Equality by Any Means Necessary or, more simply, BAMN.</a><br>
In a sweeping opinion, Lawson rejected every one of the legal arguments that BAMN and other opponents were hoping to use to strike down Michigans new amendment barring the use of racial preferences. Lawsons decision takes the steam out of the multiple legal challenges that have dogged the new amendment almost from the day it passed in November, 2006.</p>
<p>The legal outcome was not as surprising as Lawsons timing. From the beginning, Lawson seemed eager to see BAMNs case proceed. He even issued an extraordinary preliminary injunction forbidding enforcement of the new amendment against three Michigan universities while the case got underway. Even after a panel of Sixth Circuit judges issued a stinging rebuke of this misuse of federal judicial authority, Lawson continued to find new judicial limbs on which to keep the suit perched.</p>
<p>Though there was little likelihood the suit would succeed on the merits, Lawson allowed the parties to gear up for a major trial that would have focused on the effects of the new amendment on minority enrollment. Lawson possibly thought that a long period of pre-trial discovery followed by a sensational trial might slow down the new amendment or turn up a new legal basis for striking it down. And a public airing of problems with the new amendment might help opponents of similar initiatives planned for five other states.</p>
<p>But then suddenly Lawson pulled the plug on all this with an opinion in March that, whatever else it did, certainly ended the prospect of further discovery and a trial.</p>
<p>Lawsons about-face was no accident. Pre-trial discovery was turning up evidence that the extensive use of racial preferences at Michigan universities was directly causing racial disparities in grades, majors, graduation and professional examination results. Far from helping the case for racial preferences, pre-trial discovery was undermining it...
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<p>"I don't know many schools (never mind top schools) that have race quotas.<br>
Affirmative action tends to be socioeconomic/cultural."</p>
<p>While it may be true that they don't have explicit quotas, it's pretty obvious that they use holistic emissions to ensure that they achieve rough racial balance. They all keep track of racial balance as well. I'm also extremely skeptical about whether schools in fact base AA primarily on socioeconomic and cultural status. Note that I'm not saying that the schools are wrong to do what they do--I just think we should be realistic about what is actually happening.</p>
<p>LOL, love post 722. Let's hear it for any AA forum or sub-forum. Then some of us can REALLY avoid the interminable whining.</p>