Film Schools for Production as a Freshman

<p>^^haha, thanks…I think. I’m actually super duper nice and don’t bite unless rubbed the wrong way. I don’t go looking for arguments unless another persons intent is to attempt to disrespect me which I think is fairly normal behavior. I recall kuma in Japanese means bear but what does chan mean?</p>

<p>dung I thought someone beat you up good so you became nice, like, happened to me.
“chan” is this bonus you put on after someone’s name when s/he is either/or/and
1 friend
2 younger
3 cute =kawaii</p>

<p>more often used for, and in between young kids, especially for girls and cute animals (Kitty-chan) but OK for between drunk, otaku, or co-conspiring sweaty grownups in friendly terms, which I think we are. (no?)</p>

<p>i can handle 1 or 2 but mobs can be a challenge to manage at times. I think killing em with kindness with the ol cloak and dagger and a smile on my face and blood on my fingers goes further than getting outright angry or becoming reactionary. </p>

<p>Thanx for the clarification. Are you from Kawaii? I lived with a household of Kawaii punk rockers who spoke a mix of island pigeon so curious. They were some of the coolest people I lived with. We were up in the hills and played music and partied all the time. They would absolutely trash this gorgeous house every night by midnight and every morning would get up and clean the house spotless by noon and do it all over again. It was a very brotherly comrade type environment since they never ordered each other around, unless were blatantly crass about it haha, and just did it, if that makes sense. Now if only tenants in the states did that!</p>

<p>where I’m from; land of kawaii=Hello Kitty, Pokemom, Miyazaki, youtube’s Dramatic Gopher =Japan<br>
we have this saying “departing birds leave no s**t behind”
^could be translated in nicer way, but it means you won’t get ANY deposit back if you have so much of pushpin hole on the rented apartment wall.
At least was that way when I left. I hear things are changed, like everything should.</p>

<p>sorry super duper off topic
see you around kuma-chan</p>

<p>haha, not that off topic for what I mentioned and find it interesting and funny. </p>

<p>Ye tz, I’m sure UCSC’s program is decent and wish is was more for what I want since like UCSC and Santa Cruz. Due to that I’m more interested in UCSB for film studies and SBCC for production over UCSD for a digital media visual arts degree. Sixth College seems cool and got nothing against UCSD, just don’t think its the best choice for me for film programs in the UC system. </p>

<p>I’d love to get into Loyola it’s $$$$$ and difficult to get into and just not interested in Chapman or CalArts for production, although would consider USC maybe. A few of my film friends who wanted to remain local to the bay area seem to like the Art Institutes in SF and Sunnyvale but they just didn’t grab me enough. I’d rather go to film school in Canada or Australia or on the east coast instead. Best of luck to you too tzfilm!</p>

<p>Congratulations to your son! And to you! Great news! I think, from my limited knowledge, that LMU is a great program. USC for “industry” jobs, might be a bit better- and as a university is ranked a bit higher, however for film, LMU has a fabulous reputation. Chapman is also a very good program. We have not investigated CalArts, so I can’t comment. But… he is already in to a great program! He can’t go wrong… As others have suggested, once you have all your admissions in hand, it might be worth one more visit, to see which program feels like the best “fit” for your son. Talent will do well- so once in somewhere, it is about where he feels the best.</p>

<p>ye, me thinks its more about fit more too. Chapmen is cool for a western lac, even tho im more biased towards eastern lacs, but would be psyched if was 18 from the oc and the 'rents were supportive. Wasnt a fit for me but 1 can go take a look online at the student admission reel winners and losers. I like usc academics but 4 me its more of a location thang so they would have to hook me up good. I like the usc vibe bit more than lmu whos location and program i like. Ucla has the #1 location which makes it a popular undergrad which is cool but prefer their grad school moving image archive masters and cals the best for phd level film studies and archives.</p>

<p>For anyone who is interested in finding the best film school, you’ll have to do an in-depth research on those schools. What do you expect from a film school? Do you want to hold a camera on the first day? Do you want to keep your own work? Do you want the best facilities? Do you want the best connections, internships, and reputation? Do you want the best faculty? Do you want a school that has their own film production company? Do you want the best scholarships? What fits you best…weather, location, and size? Do you want the whole package from a school? There are many great film schools out there, but to find one that can deliver the whole package is rare. Chapman is tops and has the whole package and obviously very competitive to get in. To best compare the schools and their programs, is by visiting them, to checkout their facilities and ask questions by speaking to their students and faculty.</p>

<p>Since OCELITE put this thread back up… thought I’d update you on what my son decided (I was the OP). We visited about 15 places. He will apply to 5 in the fall: USC, LMU, Chapman, Emerson and NYU. For him, those all had what he wanted: film and digital, good academics outside of film, location, and when he visited each, he felt like he would be happy at any of them. The “fit” felt right to him. We’ll see what happens. I’ll let you know in the spring of 2012.</p>

<p>Thanks Maddenmd for the thread. I’ve noticed that there are people looking into film programs out there without a clue on what to look for. Hopefully those of us with insight in a certain school or program can provide some guidance to those who are seeking it. Best of luck to your son! :)</p>

<p>This is off topic but I’m trying to ask my question without having to start a new thread. I’ve been an actress since I was little, primarily interested in film (although all of my training has been stage based) I have finally started doing more film and the more I am around it the more I know that film is where I want to act. Now, to my question. I am going to be a senior and was originally planning to apply to theater schools. However, I started to think that maybe a film degree would better suit me. I could audition and act on the side but otherwise I could be immersed in the film industry, even if that means behind the camera. My question is, I’ve had my eye on USC. I, of course have many backups (ten to be exact) lol. But I was just wondering, if you have never made a film before, just acted, etc should you kiss USC goodbye? Or is it really a mix of academics, writing samples, etc. Thanks for reading this crazy long post!!</p>

<p>It’s a mix for sure (especially for undergrad). Nobody is going to be making visionary films while they are in high school, so admissions are looking for smart kids that have the potential to tell a story, and have a voice. It would be nice if you had a portfolio, but it’s not going to kill your chances. If I were you in your position, I would really stress interesting life experiences you’ve had.</p>

<p>With all due respect,

  • being a DOP is by no means a “fall back” job for actresses, which is not to say one can’t be a great actress and great shooter – but usually they’re two different types of talent. </p>

<p>If you truly have a desire, skill, vision, compositional eye, technical aptitude, comprehension of the physics relating to superior shooting, facility with software for editing, attention to detail, precision in observation of color, firm comprehension of sound software, sound science, editing, etc., then terrific – apply to film production.</p>

<p>If those areas do not appeal to you, but you’re a great writer, then apply to film with a concentration in screenwriting.</p>

<p>But if your true passion is acting, then follow your passion. Theater programs are usually housed at schools that have robust performing arts opportunities in a wide range of settings. Eg. Umich theater program students can take a course called “Acting for Camera” and take film theory and production ELECTIVES, which are not the same of course as a concentrated BFA in film production.</p>

<p>That said, while the production stream at USC does not out and out say you won’t be considered without portfolio (eg. writing samples can substitute) it will make it a tad tougher to compete. And FYI, many years ago I got into a portfolio based, (then) male-dominated, 1 in 10 admit production program on the strength of my writing, theater background, and one lone animated film, so it CAN be done. Just wanted to make clear its often a different skill set than what the talent possesses. Best wishes in your search!</p>

<p>Thanks so much for the help. I’ve been researching a lot and have found that most schools can do minors or double majors so I can get film and theater. It isn’t that film is a fallback. I just never thought of it as being my thing since I have always been an actress. But film fascinates me and I want to learn all aspects of it. Which is why I am interested in being a film major. Just wanted to clarify. I just realized I sounded pretty dumb and all “oh I guesssssss I’ll be a film major” which I didn’t mean. Thanks again!</p>

<p>hey… i am gonna ask something a little off topic. i am from India and m looking forward to apply at USC school of cinematic arts for fall of 2012. i went through the link (USC Financial Aid - Applying & Receiving Financial Aid - Graduates & Professionals - Costs)
where they have mentioned the costs and it left me all the more confused. they have mentioned that the overall fees, including the housing and transportation etc is $64,029 and am applying for an MFA which is for 3 yrs. so the doubt i had was, do i have to pay 64k every yr fr 3 yrs or is it for the entire MFA. thanks.</p>

<p>The cost is per year.</p>