<p>WOOHOO! Clemson at #48, thought we would’ve done a lot worst than that haha, we got 70 points for the fall.</p>
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<p>Oh and FYI:</p>
<p>Michigan is mediocre at basketball and even football now.
Florida is mediocre at basketball.
Texas is okay at basketball.
Duke sucks at football.
UNC sucks at football and while I would never say it sucks at basketball, it certainly stunk it up pretty badly this year considering the expectations they normally have.</p>
<p>None of these schools are more of an athletic powerhouse than Stanford is, even in terms of your pair of high-profile sports. Stanford football was even ranked for a number of weeks.</p>
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First off, UNC doesn’t “suck” at football; they make bowl games pretty consistently. I agree that Duke has traditionally been bad at football although that is turning around rapidly. Michigan’s having a few bad years but it’s the winningest college football program of all time.</p>
<p>My point is that Stanford doesn’t have the reputation in any of the major sports that those 5 schools have. Duke is a basketball juggernaut, Michigan is a football powerhouse, Florida is BOTH a football and basketball titan (they won 2 NCs this past decade if you didn’t notice), Texas has one of the most celebrated football programs as well as a strong basketball program and UNC is a basketball juggernaut while being admittedly average at football.</p>
<p>Stanford has its moments in both football and basketball but it only has 2 Final Four appearances in basketball and has made one BCS Bowl game, a Rose bowl matchup it lost in 2000.</p>
<p>Stanford is merely “above average” in the two most important sports, so therefore it can’t be considered the best sports school or top athletic program by any stretch of the imagination.</p>
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<p>Different sports aren’t more “major” or “important” than others - they just generate more television revenue. By your argument, all women’s sports would be “minor” and “unimportant.” That position, if adopted by a higher ed institution, would be a violation of federal law.</p>
<p>^^If you’re going to judge Stanford baseball solely on its performance in the NCAA tournament (and throw away the rest of the season as well as its entire history), you should do the same for the other programs.</p>
<p>And Florida isn’t a “basketball titan” by either standard…</p>
<p>hmm… I thought Stanford HC Jim Harbaugh (Michigan’s future coach - if R2 screw up again this year and got axed) is doing a good job last season! The team was tied for 2nd in the Pac-10, and dropped the close game against the sooners in Sun Bowl.</p>
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<p>I find it amusing to be really puffed up about making sure one goes to the appropriately elite, prestigious schools – presumably to be able to leapfrog into elite socioeconomic circles – but then the sports enjoyed by those circles are all of a sudden “country club sports,” said with an air of disdain.</p>
<p>Pizzagirl, what is going on here?</p>
<p>I fully agree with your posts on this thread again</p>
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<p>Lesdiables covered this pretty well (thanks!) but I’ll expand on it just a little bit. UNC football is going to be ranked top 25 preseason and has a chance to put 4-5 people in the first round of the NFL draft. We may have been mediocre in football years ago, but we are far from “sucking”.</p>
<p>^I’m looking at going to the Clemson-UNC game in Chapel Hill this fall!</p>
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<p>You should definitely do it. Just talking to my friends about the upcoming football season, it seems as if the Clemson game is the home game that people are looking forward to the most. Clemson is a great program and expectations will be high on both sides.</p>
<p>Division I Directors’ Cup Rankings 2009-10 (USNWR ranking)</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford (4)</li>
<li>Florida (47)</li>
<li>Virginia (24)</li>
<li>UCLA (24)</li>
<li>UNC (28)</li>
<li>UC Berkeley (21)</li>
<li>Duke (10)</li>
<li>Penn State (47)</li>
<li>USC (26)</li>
<li>Texas (47)</li>
<li>Wisconsin (39)</li>
<li>Univ. of Washington (42)</li>
<li>Michigan (27)</li>
<li>Notre Dame (20)</li>
<li>Princeton (1)</li>
<li>Illinois (39)</li>
<li>Georgia Tech (35)</li>
<li>Northwestern (12)</li>
<li>Cornell (15)</li>
<li>Wake Forest (28)</li>
<li>Vanderbilt (17)</li>
<li>Boston College (34)</li>
<li>Harvard (1)</li>
<li>Georgetown (23)</li>
<li>Yale (3)</li>
<li>Penn (4)</li>
<li>UCSB (42)</li>
<li>UC Irvine (46)</li>
<li>Brown (16)</li>
<li>William & Mary (33)</li>
<li>Rice (17)</li>
<li>Dartmouth (11)</li>
<li>Lehigh (35)</li>
<li>Tulane (50)</li>
<li>Columbia (8)</li>
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<p>Average of Directors Cup and USNWR Rankings (USNWR)</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford (4)</li>
<li><p>Duke (10)</p></li>
<li><p>Virginia (24)</p></li>
<li><p>UCLA (24)</p></li>
<li><p>UC Berkeley (21)</p></li>
<li><p>Princeton (1)</p></li>
<li><p>UNC (28)</p></li>
<li><p>USC (26)</p></li>
<li><p>Notre Dame (20)</p></li>
<li><p>Florida (47)</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan (27)</p></li>
<li><p>Penn State (47)</p></li>
<li><p>Wisconsin (39)</p></li>
<li><p>Texas (47)</p></li>
<li><p>Northwestern (12)</p></li>
<li><p>Univ. of Washington (42)</p></li>
<li><p>Harvard (1)</p></li>
<li><p>Cornell (15)</p></li>
<li><p>Illinois (39)</p></li>
<li><p>Vanderbilt (17)</p></li>
<li><p>Yale (3)</p></li>
<li><p>Georgia Tech (35)</p></li>
<li><p>Wake Forest (28)</p></li>
<li><p>Penn (4)</p></li>
<li><p>Georgetown (23)</p></li>
<li><p>Boston College (34)</p></li>
<li><p>Brown (16)</p></li>
<li><p>Rice (17)</p></li>
<li><p>William & Mary (33)</p></li>
<li><p>UCSB (42)</p></li>
<li><p>UC Irvine (46)</p></li>
<li><p>Dartmouth (11)</p></li>
<li><p>Columbia (8)</p></li>
<li><p>Lehigh (35)</p></li>
<li><p>Tulane (50)</p></li>
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<p>I think you guys have a very good chance at beating us. I hope Kyle Parker does the best thing and goes to the MLB where he won’t have to risk being injured by playing football and ruin his career. That leaves us with Tajh Boyd at QB and while I have met Tajh and he’s a really cool guy, he sure looked really rusty at QB (went like 3 for 12 at the spring game). Oh and we don’t have CJ Spiller and Jacoby Ford anymore (Andre Ellington is great but our WR replacement can’t catch a punt for his life)</p>
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<p>Well I hope you are right, but Clemson is Clemson-one of the top football programs in the ACC. I really like Dabo Swinney, and hope he has a great year. Always good to see (relatively) young coaches doing well in competitive conferences. That said, it will be an interesting game when Clemson comes to town, and I do hope that we come out on top. Either way, I expect a good show though. :)</p>
<p>There is a point where a school is giving too many spots to athletes instead of more deserving students. To win the Director’s Cup, Stanford crosses that line.</p>
<p>^That’s true, but you have to believe Stanford loves their position as an academic elite and athletic powerhouse</p>
<p>kville, so when Stanford admits someone like Toby Gehrhart with a 4.0 GPA from Norco High in Southern California and whom was also the high school football TD and rushing yardage record holder in the State of California and considered among the best high school baseball players, are you saying that Stanford crossed the line because there were more deserving students that did nothing but study to get the same 4.0 GPA as Toby, who, by the way missed getting the Heisman trophy as the best college football player in the country by whisker?</p>
<p>Is this what you are saying?</p>
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<p>^John, you went to Stanford GSB and didn’t go to undergrad there, so I don’t know why you’re so defensive of the school. The undergraduate school attended by an individual is what he/she should really care about.</p>
<p>lesdia, stop your nonsense</p>
<p>so now you are requiring a poster to have attended an undergraduate school in order to discuss the school?</p>
<p>this, by far, is the craziest of your make-believe comments that you have been making on CC.</p>
<p>truly truly unbelievable</p>
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<p>i just posted about how something lesdia wrote was the worst thing i’ve ever read on CC but I agree with JA, this comment is ridiculous</p>