Final number of ED apps for Penn Class of 2015

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<p>4,557 ED applications, up 18.3% from last year's 3,851 (the 17% figure in the article is incorrect):</p>

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Early decision applications up at peer schools</p>

<p>by Ellie Levitt | Thursday, November 18, 2010 at 11:23 pm</p>

<p>Early decision applications at Penn rose 17 percent this year, an increase similar to those of most peer institutions.</p>

<p>The Office of Admissions received an all-time high of 4,557 submissions mostly due to “a changing admissions landscape” and stronger recruitment efforts, according to Dean of Admissions Eric Furda.</p>

<p>Other Ivy League universities have seen comparable success. Early decision applications increased by almost 8 percent at Columbia University and 12 percent at Dartmouth College.</p>

<p>Bucknell, Northwestern and Vanderbilt Universities have seen the largest jumps so far — all between 20 and 30 percent.</p>

<p>When Harvard and Princeton Universities terminated their early admission programs in 2007, they contributed to the surge in applications at other institutions, according to Director of Hernandez College Consulting Michele Hernandez.</p>

<p>Applications first rose at schools that use nonbinding early action programs so students could still be in the running for Harvard and Princeton later in the year. As a result, she continued, applications at early action schools nearly doubled, so acceptance rates dropped.</p>

<p>“After watching many top classmates get rejected from these schools, students realized that it made more sense to play the strategy game and apply ED if they wanted an Ivy or top college,” she wrote in an e-mail.</p>

<p>“The process has been more favorable to us recently,” Furda concurred.</p>

<p>However, early applications fell at Brown University — which received 3 percent fewer applications this year — and remained consistent at Yale University.

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<p>Early</a> decision applications up at peer schools | The Daily Pennsylvanian</p>

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<p>This is probably a stretch - but anyone have a guess of what the admit percentage will be?</p>

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<p>I would think the percentage would remain the same but the numbers will then be a little higher than last year. My prediction based on data from the last 5 years would be 28-34 % for All Early Decision Applicants and 38 - 42% for Legacy Early Decision (these numbers were handed out in a Legacy Advising Session I attended).</p>

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<p>If they admit the same number as last time (1200), the ED admit percentage will be 26.3%. My guess is that they won’t want to admit much more than 50% of the class (i.e., about 1200) through ED, but who knows?</p>

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<p>don’t they already get a lot of crap for admitting half of its incoming class during ED?</p>

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<p>Over the last 5 years they’ve typically admitted no more than about 30% overall during ED and that includes a higher bump for the Legacy Apps. I think Penn is one of those schools that really want students on campus who want to be there more than any other place and applying ED is a way to show that it’s your number one choice. Now I know there are people who game the system but I think the admissions people are saavy enough to figure out who those people are.</p>

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<p>I would think 50% of the incoming class is a reasonable percentage to admit via ED…but you are correct they Penn does seem to ‘get crap’ regarding this. The students that choose to apply ED are certainly extremely interested in Penn, and this must count for something in Penn’s eyes. They also likely get a higher percentage of legacy applicants since they only consider legacy status during ED. One shocking stat to me is that if you do not apply ED, your acceptance rate for Penn is something like 2500/22,000+ or around 11%…since they accept approximately 2500 students from RD expecting ~60% yield to complete their freshman class of 2500+.</p>

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<p>^ The target number for the freshman class is actually 2400 (the Class of 2014 was 2,416 as of 8/17/10):</p>

<p>[Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/)</p>

<p>Not much of a difference, but makes me believe that they won’t accept many more than 1200 through ED (meaning an ED admit rate this year of around 26%).</p>

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<p>^
thx for the info, very informative</p>

<p>what do your guys think should be the acceptance rate for each school? i don’t believe that the increase number of applicants is distributed evenly among all schools and programs, so the acceptance rate should change accordingly</p>

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<p>waiting to find out if you got in is pure torture!</p>

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<p>Ivy to be…</p>

<p>Why would you apply ED to Penn when you really wanted Yale? The schools are so very different.</p>

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<p>Of the students admitted ED, what percentage of these students represent legacies, recurited athletes, development admits, etc.</p>

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<p>^ Only 325 members of the Class of 2014 are legacies, including both ED and RD admits:</p>

<p>[Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/)</p>

<p>Even if all of those were admitted ED (which undoubtedly they weren’t), that would mean that, AT MOST, 27% of the ED admits were legacies. Given that not all legacies in the Class of 2014 were admitted ED, I’d guess that legacies were less than 25% of the ED admits, and perhaps less than 20%.</p>

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<p>45percenter: Most of the legacies are “encouraged” to apply ED and I assume most are admitted ED though certainly not all. But I happen to think that 20 or 25 % of the ED class being comprised of legacies is a lot. Then add on the other groups, like athletes and there are not that many spaces left.</p>

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<p>^ That’s a lot of speculation. We really don’t know the numbers. And although legacies are encouraged to apply ED if they want to maximize the impact of their legacy status, we don’t know how many of them actually do, and how many of those are accepted (although in the past few years the ED acceptance rate for legacies has been 8-10% higher than that for non-legacy ED applicants: [Penn</a> Alumni: Alumni Council on Admissions](<a href=“http://www.alumni.upenn.edu/aca/overview.html]Penn”>http://www.alumni.upenn.edu/aca/overview.html)). As I said, we’re really speculating.</p>

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<p>Does anyone know how many ED apps were sent in for Arts and Sciences? Wharton? and the others? Just wondering if the ED acceptance rate is higher for certain schools or not.</p>

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<p>^I saw a DP article two years ago I think that gave the following percentages for ED applications: 12 % were SEAS, 57% CAS, 29 % (or something like that) for Wharton, and the rest to nursing. Following up on February 16’s question, does anyone know if they sort apps based on the school that we select. So in that case if there are engineering and college applicants from the same high school, they wouldn’t necessarily be compared since they would each be compared with the rest of the engineering and college pool respectively? Just wondering…</p>

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<p>@sixthesense</p>

<p>k, so i think all applicants in the same country are considered equally, there’s no limit on how many can be accepted from a certain school. they definitely do sort apps based on the school, and that’s why SEAS has like the highest acceptance rate among all 4 of the schools.</p>

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<p>I heard the number of Double Legacies applying ED were insane this year. My school has 4 Double Legacy applicants this year–all applying ED of course. What are the chances in a class of ~155??</p>

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<p>@Pennpsycho, Obviously your chances depend on a lot of factors. I know that at my school I’m competing with 5 other EDs with double legacies as well. Needless to say, I don’t think I’ll be sleeping till Friday!</p>