financial aid info on collegeboard

<p>i was doing college search on collegeboard.com and if you look here:
<a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=1464&profileId=9%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=1464&profileId=9&lt;/a>
it says for Upenn:
Number of enrolled international undergraduates received aid: 263
Total amount awarded : $8,703,196
Does anyone have an idea what portion of the 263 undergraduates are freshmen?
also, if you divide the amount by the number of people it gives $33092 per person. does it mean that a person receives over 30k (avg) each year?</p>

<p>Now look at Wesleyan:
Number of enrolled international undergraduates received aid: 138
Total amount awarded : $6,237,178
6237178/138 gives $45196/person which is very close to the sum of tuiton and room/board ($45652)! This is really pretty generous! (although i have no idea how much of it is actually grant.)</p>

<p>i am wondering.. is collegeboard really that accurate??</p>

<p>Have they mentioned that this info is for ''PER YEAR''?.. I cant find it anywhere...</p>

<p>I am quite sure that the numbers are per year.</p>

<p>The fin aid numbers per international student are usually either very high or very low. Low if they only give out very little aid (e.g. $10K scholarships to intls who can pay the other $30K), and high if they fully fund some international students; unfortunately for many internationals, the currency exchange rates make their money almost worthless in the US so they basically need full aid to attend even though their families might be upper middle class in their home country.</p>

<p>Yeah, I thought that too. But, don't you think that the info is a bit exaggerated?..
If the data it to be totally accurate (as we think), then, many colleges are quite ''GENEROUS'' to int'ls, Even those colleges which advices int'ls that their aid to int'ls is very-very limited?..
Direct quotes from the upenn site..

[quote]
If you are a Non-Citizen
The University is able to offer financial assistance to very few students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the U.S., Canada or Mexico. Therefore, most non-citizens should plan to meet expenses for their entire schooling before applying for admission. Because the offer of admission for non-citizens is directly linked to their ability to meet these expenses, candidates who can pay for their schooling are urged not to apply for Penn-sponsored assistance.

[/quote]

Now, according to CB, on an average, $33092 per int'l was given as aid ''per year'' AND that too, to 263 int'ls!..
Now, both of these things are speaking two different stories...</p>

<p>Another fascinating fact is that, Brown and Cornell (Despite being Ivies) have not ''reported'' about int'ls' Financial aid statistics..</p>

<p>Further, Quotes from Wesleyan..

[quote]
Financial aid for international students, however, is extremely limited and is awarded on the basis of both exceptional qualifications and demonstrated need. In addition to the 22 Freeman Asian Scholars, we expect to provide financial assistance to approximately 15 international students from a pool of over 400 such applicants

[/quote]

And, according to CB,

[quote]
Number of enrolled international undergraduates received aid: 138
Total amount awarded : $6,237,178
6237178/138 gives $45196/person which is very close to the sum of tuiton and room/board ($45652)!

[/quote]

It clearly shows that Wesleyan is a bit ''generous'' to int'ls!</p>

<p>Another fine example of two different stories!..
If they say ''VERY LIMITED'' then, I wonder, how is 138, a small number?..</p>

<p>if they provide aid to 138 undergraduates and the number is evenly distributed among all grades, 30-40 students will receive aid in each grade, which is close to what Wesleyan states (apporoximately 37).
yeah it is a good number considering Wesleyan is not a big school.</p>

<p>I'd advise not relying on the CollegeBoard statistics, they're very, very prone to mistakes. In fact, you'd be better off doing a Google Search instead of using it. If anything, use it as a base for future reference, but that's it.</p>

<p>You have to keep in mind that many colleges and universities (UPenn, for example) treat Canadians differently than internationals for fin aid purposes, but Canadians count to the international pool for the statistics reported to Collegeboard. Therefore the numbers on Collegeboard might be of limited use for us, but I don't doubt that they are true.</p>

<p>I recall ColbyAdmissions saying that they fund only few international students, but those typically receive close to full aid.</p>

<p>Wesleyan's numbers really are that high because of its Freeman Asian Scholars program, which just about sends two students each from select Asian countries to Wes on a full ride... the collegeboard numbers seem accurate for Wes, or at least in the ballpark...</p>

<p>good point, b@r!um. that makes sense..</p>

<p>is Freemans scholars program highly competitive?
cause while 2 per each country is a small number, Wesleyan isnt exactly that famous internationally, you know (or am i wrong? i might well be.)</p>