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<p>I am not allowed to defend myself against riduculous misinterpretation? Oh wait, this is the MMA forum standard procedure. Someone makes a ridiculous statement and then everyone get upset when one attempts to correct them.</p>
<p>Awww. Thanks you guys for all the well meaning kindhearted pm’s sent my way this morning. Although I think the “Glenda the Good Witch” was a big stretch. Cake for all of you!</p>
<p>69, please feel free to tell us whats really bothering you. We don’t mind a little adversity as it’s a part of the KP experience. So go on my dear, you have the floor. I beg everyone’s patience as if we do not listen, how can we learn & therefore help right the said wrongs of matters? I thought you'd liked Spica's post. You said so earlier. I promise to shush about the cake & be serious minded.</p>
<p>LOL Somebody just sent me this:
Marie</a> Antoinette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
With note attached: "LET THEM EAT CAKE!" You guys stop! I can't concentrate here!</p>
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<p>I thought I just had in the immediately preceding post. A typical scenario. Spica completely misrepresents my previous comments on this forum about USNA. I attempt to defend myself and suzannegra immediately attacks me. Of course, as your PMs this morning indicate, I am made out to be the ogre.</p>
<p>Just as an aside, the only two occasions that I have mentioned the correlation between USMMA, USNA, and training to become a Naval Officer was first when a MMA parent told a young person who specifically stated that she wanted to be a Naval Officer that her BEST route was via MMA. That is not true. Possibly a good route, but definitely not the best. The other situation was when someone told another candidate that the BEST source for Naval Aviation was MMA because they had more flight school seat slots. Both these examples are irresponsible posts. If the members of this forum cannot police themselves, rest assured I will not allow false information to go unchallenged. It is not fair to those who come here for help.</p>
<p>I swear on my life that not one person used the term “ogre”. Skeletor & some other stuff that only read ******** so I don’t know what THAT was about. But truly….nothing about an Ogre, I promise. I don't cause people's caustic reactions, I just read 'em. :)</p>
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<p>Oooopsie. Can we finally have hope? Maybe by you watching us for any of that wrong information, it means you would have to research KP for the right answers to provide us yes? Well, by your finding out more about KP, you might end up growing a soft spot in your heart for us in the end. I like it!</p>
<p>Totally imaginary question for ya…… Say that young lady who wanted to be that Naval Officer found that MMA really was the best route for her. What if she were at KP right now? How do you feel about that?</p>
<p>I would hope that she had made an informed decision.</p>
<p>so, is there going to be cake or not?
this thread is making me hungry. you wouldn't like me when I'm hungry.</p>
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<p>APE, I always wait for the 5:00 chocolate happiness hour. I'll get the cake back out then! Bring a spork!</p>
<p>69 - Meh. That can’t be all you had to say so let me rephrase the question. Lets continue the assumption game & pretend that she received all the information within her power to make this life changing decision & it landed her squarely in the middle of the Grinder on I-day. When you said in this partial quote:
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<p>If each service academy is not the best source of officers for that particular service, we are wasting a lot of taxpayer's money. Conversly, should her desires have been the merchant marine, USMMA would, no doubt, have been her best choice. Backup choices become too complex to speculate what would be 'best'.</p>
<p>So you don't consider KP a good source for Officers? Did I read that correctly? Is it that you feel that the training & education KP offers should be gotten rid of because these type of Officers are not needed? I didn't understand the backup comment either. My son's back up was the Citadel. First choice was KP. Wow I'm glad he made it to KP so he couldn't come home every freaking week-end. Sorry. I wish to comment but fear I am not understanding where you stand & it won't do to comment without having the full picture.</p>
<p>Would love to stay & play but I get to babysit in a few! YAY! She can eat cake too! I've trained her to say Beat CG! It comes out "Be CA CA" but is all good cause I know what she's sayin'. Shes' the next best thing to having a monkey.</p>
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<p>I didn't say that. I don't believe that. I have never said it. And I have never believed it. You guys on this forum sure do like to reinvent whatever I say to conform to your own prejudices, don't you?</p>
<p> [quote=Jamzmom] I can only comment on the KP side of things where I read pretty much every day
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<p>If this is true, you probably read our last discussion so, since you are apparently in a confrontational mood, we don't need to repeat it.</p>
<p>So USNA69--Considering Jamzmom's question further, what would be the "best" pecking order of a Naval Flight Officer? 1. USNA 2. USMMA 3. Up the ranks of the Navy 4. Commercial Aviation 5. General Aviation--Really, I'm sure this is a very big question for alot of potential flyers...what do you think?</p>
<p>If the individual was definitely set on Naval Air considering the marginal benefits of a sea year and the lack of a compatible major, I would question, unless there were extenuating circumstances, placing USMMA ahead of a good NROTC program or one of the senior military colleges.</p>
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<p>You jumped there gun there my friend. Whoa! And that is why I PRE-asked for further explanation of the above so that I DIDN'T comment on something I didn't fully understand. It just reads funny is all & I'm still scratching my head. I'm blonde sometimes but I wasn't trying to confront you srsly you big ol silly. </p>
<p>"Our" last conversation or do you mean as with KP peoples in the threads? I do kinda recall one of "our" last conversations. You weren't very nice to me but I forgave you. XOXOXOX
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<p>Thank you to Kathy for the important question.</p>
<p>DONG DONG DONG DONG DONG
Its cake time! Even ice cream by popular request!</p>
<p>USNA69--Is there a college that focuses on Naval Aviation, other than USNA, that there is evidence that the Navy recruits flyers from there more frequently than other schools? What NROTC program would benefit these future flyers and give them the best shot, because not all flyers can come from USNA. A good friend of mine's son went to USNA and was a middle of the road student there with a poli sci major and is doing GREAT in the flying program. His cousin, a woman, went to USNA and went into the flying program and also did great, but she was an exceptional student (Honors, etc.) and honestly I don't know what her major was, but wound up getting a desk job in the Pentagon for a while. </p>
<p>Many kids can't get an appointment to USNA for one reason or another and if the kid really wants to fly--could you be more specific?</p>
<p>The quality of a NROTC program depends on it's staff leaders. Their tour is three years at max. Probably all units have equitable aviation slots. Therefore, the determinant, if I were advising, would simply be to find a good school that would be a fit for the student.</p>
<p>How do you know of any benefit marginal or great or none of the sea year. Since you never experienced it. If your have your CG License I apoligize. Because you would have the required practical experience.</p>
<p>I would imagine that the reason USMMA midshipmen go on sea year instead of spending a year playing Army at Ft Benning, GA is that they have found mission specific training to be the most beneficial. Of course, there are generic lessons to be learned and leadership skills to be honed, but the most effective use of the year is to make it mission specific. Of course, someone going Naval Air would receive some benefits but I am sure you can honestly say that it is not the most effective utilization of their time and effort. </p>
<p>Effective utilization of time and effort breeds enthusiasm. Enthusiasm breed success. If one's goal is Naval Aviation, spending a year on a commercial freighter will probably not seem very relevant. Perhaps a parallel would be the failure and drop out rate, which, I believe, is the highest of all the academies. Perhaps the restricted options for majors for those who do not plan to enter the merchant marine causes a lack of enthusiasm for those same individuals with other career aspirations. Also, from what I have read on other posts recently, sea year might be something to be avoided.</p>
<p>Good post SPICA!!</p>
<p>Oliver is very tired of the naval aviation stuff....</p>