First child going to college, need help

<p>What about Ohio University in Athens?</p>

<p>I second Union, Rose Hulman - if rankings mean anything it’s #1 for undergrad engineering - and why not look into wpi, rit etc ?
I also agree that the discrepancy is worth looking into.</p>

<p>^^^RIT is a great choice! They’re extremely disability friendly as well.</p>

<p>I would discourage applying to Berkeley. There is an out of state surcharge of $25k and they give no financial aid for that portion so why waste the time and energy (they have additional essays) to apply to a school you clearly cannot afford. Plus engineering in the UC’s is extremely competitive and her test scores will not cut it. I know because I am from CA and have a current senior D applying to colleges for engineering. By the way my S is a senior at Ohio State and loves it. He could have graduated a year early but we are letting him stay for his senior year because he is having such a positive experience and is on a full merit ride so we don’t have to pay for it. </p>

<p>Her academic credentials make her a strong student so I would look at test option colleges since her test scores are the weak component of her application. Go to [The</a> National Center for Fair & Open Testing | FairTest](<a href=“http://www.fairtest.org%5DThe”>http://www.fairtest.org) for the list of test optional colleges. Many will give merit aid not dependent on test scores. WPI is on that list which is a great school for engineering and I think they would give a merit scholarship. </p>

<p>Be sure to run the net price calculator for each school and only have her apply to those schools that are affordable to your family. It is pointless to waste efforts on colleges you can’t afford. I would have her apply to MIT. I find students need to apply to one of those kind of schools; it is better to get the rejection than have the issue lingering over their head of “what if”. If she gets in then she great and if she doesn’t then there are no “what ifs” but I would limit it just to one school.</p>

<p>How has everyone jumped to a disability conclusion with an ACT English score of 27 vs. a Math score of 29?? Sheesh. </p>

<p>OP, I would look at Wright State, just north of Cinti. Excellent engineering program which has lots of internship opportunities with the AF Labs at Wright-Patterson AFB. It’s less expensive than OSU and she may qualify for some merit $.</p>

<p>She could be on the bubble for osu as her test scores are below the middle acceptance range. </p>

<p>If cost is a consideration I would make sure she applies to miami and ohio univ for safety options. </p>

<p>Bowling green and kent don’t have engineering schools.</p>

<p>Thanks for saying that ohiopublic. I was thinking that she might be borderline but maybe the female and engineering will be a boost for admission. </p>

<p>Since when is Miami University a safety? Have they dropped in selectivity? Although I think she would get in as they are trying to build their engineering program. But OP already said that she didn’t like Miami. </p>

<p>We looked at Ohio University and it is a wonderful school, we thought that there were better engineering schools in Ohio. Wright State is a great suggestion, Dayton also has engineering but it is a catholic university and she didn’t want anything religious but I don’t think Dayton is.</p>

<p>I guess I shouldn’t have said safety. Both osu and Miami have similar midline test score stats according to our schools naviance. Just thought OP might be liking miami a lot better if osu fell through and cost is a consideration. </p>

<p>I think it is good to have a couple of acceptances as options. A lot changes between now and may 1.</p>

<p>My daughter didn’t have miami as an option until visit #2 and now miami/osu are neck and neck.</p>

<p>Dayton is Marianist (so Catholic) but also a good engineering program. She would probably get in there with some merit but that would still be expensive. One plus to Dayton is they have a set price pledge for the four year stay - no price increases.</p>

<p>The question is whether or not you all can afford OSU and the other schools on the list. You will get early notice whether she is accepted there or not, and think she will be. Getting money, …ummm, that is a whole other story. Have you run an estimated EFC and NPC for OSU and looked at what you can afford? After the acceptance is not the time to start putting price constraints into the picture. You might want to let her know what you can afford, and she should be looking at some local schools and some less known state school, maybe commuter schools that are definitely affordable.</p>

<p>When our son applied to college, we had two choices that we knew were affordable, and three or four more that we knew were likely. That went hand in hand with admissions possiblities because we did not want to get a list of schools that were all unaffordable, or have him stuck with a local school or option just picked out of a hat. The hardest schools to find to put on the list were the affordable ones that were still bearable (yes, he was spoiled then, but has grown up since) to him. So start looking for some low cost options as well as what you have on the list already.</p>

<p>Are you guys Hispanic?</p>

<p>Schools:
The Ohio State University (early action) - in-state
Case Western University (early action)
University of Cincinnati (early action)
University of Kentucky (early action) - out of state</p>

<p>How can she apply Early Action to more than one school? I thought an Early Action application promised that you would attend the school if accepted. How can she attend four schools? Can anyone else explain? Am I mistaking the “rules?” I’m new at this too.</p>

<p>If my child wanted to apply to MIT or other “reach” schools that she didn’t meet the basic requirements, I’d have them pay all the fees with her own money. Her scores are too low unless she is a URM.</p>

<p>Early Decision is supposed to a promise by the applicant to attend if admitted with sufficient financial aid. An applicant should only apply Early Decision to at most one school that is his/her clear first choice and for which s/he will not need to compare financial aid offers to other schools.</p>

<p>Early Action just allows the applicant to get a decision early, although some applicants at some schools will be deferred to the regular time (usually those near the “borderline”). It is not binding on the applicant, and the applicant may apply to several schools Early Action, unless any of the schools has Restrictive or Single-Choice Early Action (but even those schools typically allow other Early Action applications to public schools).</p>

<p>^^^Thank you for clearing that up!</p>

<p>I would definitely test for ADHD or other processing problems–if she has to re-read to get the page when so many other things indicate lively intelligence, it is a red flag. </p>

<p>It can buy her untimed SATs ACTs and even if it is too late now for those, will get her extra time for writing papers, etc, when she is in the univ. </p>

<p>Think about RIT – very disability friendly and loads of things going on at that school. She would be able to make great networks.</p>

<p>We are not hispanic, or any minority, to answer whoever asked that. </p>

<p>We are attempting to get her evaluated for possible dyslexia or learning disability. In the meantime, she did agree to visit and apply to Wright State University as a safety school. She decided to apply after we visited and she found out they have guaranteed merit scholarships at certain academic levels (funds permitting) and that they use her weighted gpa in their formula, making her eligible for a good amount of merit aid even with her weaker test scores. She will not apply to any other schools until she gets decisions from the schools she’s already applied to. She feels like she’s applied enough places. </p>

<p>We live less than 5 minutes from Miami University’s Hamilton campus, so if everything goes wrong with everything else, starting her education there and living at home is always an option. It’s an option she’s not a fan of, as she is currently planning all the way to graduate school and thinks ‘wasting’ (her word) two years there would hurt her in the long run. With that said, she understands the financial end of things and I don’t anticipate any problems if it comes down to not being able to afford somewhere she gets accepted. </p>

<p>Thanks for all the advice. I’ll post back when she gets her decisions. Might as well show the results for people looking for this sort of info in the future.</p>

<p>I’m the first to go to college (out of my siblings) and my mom didn’t go to college.
Our usernames are highly ironic.</p>

<p>Haha, I guess being stressed out about the process isn’t all that uncommon on both parent and student side.</p>

<p>there is a lot of excellent info on this site…keep looking! One thing that I didn’t catch on to with our first was the merit aid “rule.” Merit aid is more generous when your gpa is above the midline of applicants. This seems elementary, but we didn’t catch on to this until very late in the process. Yet another reason to have safety schools! In our case, DD got 18k from one school, 12k from a second, and none from a third. this aligned exactly with where she stood in their applicant pool. Another common error is assuming that you will get your estimated financial need met. Many middle to low middle folks I know we’re shocked at their EFC being higher than they thought, and then when it wasn’t met…</p>

<p>Merit aid is more generous when your gpa is above the midline of applicants</p>

<p>Actually, it’s usually more than just that. GPA is often the “lesser considered” part of the consideration of a student’s stats. The test scores (M and CR for SAT or ACT composite) are typically the biggest consideration.</p>

<p>Merit awards usually work like this:</p>

<p>There is a huge pool of students with high GPAs (because of grade inflation, weaker curriculums, etc)</p>

<p>There is a smaller pool of students with high test scores (many kids with high GPAs have modest test scores because their GPA’s were inflated).</p>

<p>There is an even smaller pool of students with high test scores AND strong GPAs. THESE are the students who are usually given the merit awards.</p>

<p>A school’s reported “middle quartiles” for test scores affects its ranking. That’s why getting students with high test scores onto campus is highly desirable…which is why the merit goes to them.</p>

<p>So, the trick is to select schools that are known to give merit and where the student’s test scores are well-within the upper quartile. So if a school is reporting middle quartiles of 24-28, and you have an ACT 30, then you’ll probably get some award. If you have an ACT 32+, then you’ll probably get a larger award.</p>