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<p>The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges.</p>
<p>It’s interesting that all minority Justices went with the majority opinion.</p>
<p>“Not to mince words too much, but there are not segregated schools and housing in Texas. We have poor neighborhoods and wealthy neighborhoods, and we have schools that are predominately this or that race…but segregation is not allowed.”</p>
<p>You’ve just defined de facto segregation.</p>
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<p>I get what you’re saying - but it is “de facto”, and there is no effort, at least where I live to keep things segregated. The neighborhood I live in is VERY integrated, and the school my kids went to is also VERY integrated, as are all of the schools in the surrounding districts.</p>
<p>Across Texas, as I’ve stated, there are pockets of de facto segregation. I don’t think that will ever change. Some of it has to do with proximity to Mexico.</p>
<p>I don’t know where xiggi gets the idea that UT can unilaterally revise its auto-admit plan. The Texas legislature is taking UT’s side in its fight against Perry and his cronies on the board of regents, but UT does not control the legislature. UT would have to work with the legislature on any revisions, as the plan comes from state law, and there could be insurmountable resistance to any radical change. The auto-admit law comes from the unusual alliance of rural Republicans and urban and Rio Grande Valley Democrats on this issue, and I do not see any significant changes being supported by those groups in the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>"Simply stated, we do not have a problem in that more of the Abigail Fisher feel above getting into UT via the CAP system and decide to join a lower school a la LSU. Our problem remains that students who are eligible to go to Austin do not do it because it is economically or socially feasible. </p>
<p>It is about equity and justice."</p>
<p>Xiggi, have to agree here. UT is THE most expensive public University in Texas by far, and doesn’t offer much to most in the way of aid.</p>
<p>Most middle class families in Texas would struggle to send their kid to school there.</p>
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<p>As you said, your area is integrated, so by definition it isn’t segregated. Segregated neighborhoods usually also exhibit a pattern of bank policies, green-lining and red-lining, placing of public housing (if any), community investment, parks, etc. that result in continued segregation without anyone legislating it. (We have it all over the northern states.)</p>
<p>So, xiggi, if the number is lowered for some schools because they applied and made the cut, how does that help URM’s? Will they suddenly start applying?</p>
<p>Many are not applying because the cost is greater than every great state regional college, every public university in Texas. Housing is outrageous, and frankly there are places they PREFER because of the feel of the place - not just at the University, but in Austin itself.</p>
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<p>cromette, my son attended high school in a wealthy suburban neighborhood, where Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented. Economically disadvantaged are less than 10%. It is ranked in Newsweek’s America’s best public schools, Top 20 in Texas. It claims to be open enrollment.
[America’s</a> Best High Schools - Newsweek and The Daily Beast](<a href=“http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/05/06/america-s-best-high-schools.html]America’s”>http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/05/06/america-s-best-high-schools.html)</p>
<p>However, the neighboring district schools are 90% non-white, ethnic poor, Hispanics and Blacks. So, how does our district keep these families out? First of all, our district has a separate school, an alternative school for behavior problems and underachieving students. Next, our district has policies that siphon all kids from families who transfer from that neighboring district into that alternative school. This is done systematically. For example, my son attended middle school in that poor district. He took the most rigorous courses offered,including 9 high school courses in his middle school and was qualified to attend High School DAP with a perfect GPA. However, when we moved to this wealthy neighborhood son was told he did not qualify to attend the regular school. He was recommended to transfer to the alternative school. He was told he would not be able to pass his AP Tests so did not need the opportunity to be on DAP. They recalculated his GPA and placed him at the bottom of the class in freshman year. He was told point blank, his recalculated GPA was so low, that even if he could get straight As in all Honors and AP courses he would not be able to raise his rank high enough to make it to UT auto admit. So, he should move to the alternative school. Now this is the same kid who is a National Merit Semifinalist, should make National AP Scholar this year and who scored in 700s in all SAT and SAT Subject Tests as well as scored 33/33 on the MPE at Texas A&M.</p>
<p>No amount of Affirmative Action will make a difference to the children whose families don’t focus on and value the importance of education.</p>
<p>amazing story, perazziman – so where did he end up going?</p>
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<p>Ever wondered why there is still such a need to place a small thumb on the scale of our current youth and future generations that indeed do not benefit from a family who values “education?” As far as I know, not many children can choose their parents, and SES status. </p>
<p>Fwiw, that “value education” qualifier is one of the most misleading terms. Should I replace it with “value what education” can bring in terms of social and financial climbing? Do people who claim to value education really mean they value learning? </p>
<p>More than one can play the cynical game.</p>
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<p>That is what the Percentage Plan mitigates for: low SES status. That plan is not under scrutiny.</p>
<p>I am still waiting for a compelling reason why high SES kids of any race need a thumb on the scale.</p>
<p>Perazziman, that is CRAZY!!! Heads should ROLL.</p>
<p>But, the percentage plan only works BECAUSE of SES ghettos. What an indictment of the critical thinking on the SC.</p>
<p>katliamom, A&M has an auto accept program for NMSFs. So that is where he will be going to study EE. However, his Class Rank would not have qualified him.</p>
<p>I’m still waiting for a reason why high SES kids need a thumb on the scale</p>
<p>GMTplus7 You may wish to look at the obstacles faced by my son after we could no longer be considered low SES and moved out of a low SES ethnic community. The systems are not designed to let people move out.</p>
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<p>Is there any local media that would be interested in this story?</p>
<p>“I am still waiting for a compelling reason why high SES kids of any race need a thumb on the scale.”</p>
<p>“GMTplus7 You may wish to look at the obstacles faced by my son after we could no longer be considered low SES and moved out of a low SES ethnic community. The systems are not designed to let people move out.”</p>
<p>So the idea is to keep Black and other minority kids - of whatever income - segregated in their Black and minority schools. Did I get this straight? Because if they move out, they will be placed at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to state flagship u admissions, where if they only knew their place…</p>
<p>What’s wrong with this picture?</p>
<p>Ginsburg got it exactly right.</p>