<p>Haha, the master spinners are at work again, weaving stupidity and envy into beautiful rags of silliness. Perhaps, they should read the UC materials every so often.</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be fair to take the amount of money that the medical school raised and divide it among all of the nine other schools.</p>
<p>I also read that UCSF is trying to distance itself from the University of California system to become more independent and freed of the burden of having to subsidize the system financially.</p>
<p>I’m curious as to what the Cal alumni feel about that.</p>
<p>UCSF wants a relationship like that of UC Hastings College of the Law, the de facto second School of Law of Cal. While UCSF is tired to have to funnel funds to the other nine schools and pay 18 percent of the admin costs, it is also aware that it will soon bleed money because of the Mission Bay expansion.</p>
<p>Perhaps UCSF should donate the expanded facilities to Cal in 2015 to allow them to drop the de facto claim and have its own medical school.</p>
<p>The entire UC system if combined is like No.1 in fund raising of all.</p>
<p>So does it mean UC and California budget crisis is no longer?
If UC system can raise so much money from private sources.</p>
<p>So why is UC still cutting everything + hiking tuition,
and UC students keep protesting and
beaten by school police? Or the funds are only for grad research,
and undergrad will continue to be bankrupt and perhaps shut down all together
in the close future ?</p>
<p>It remains a fact that Med schools are MAJOR factors in fundraising and research rankings, etc and comparing those with and without IS apples to oranges. </p>
<p>UC is getting a much improved budget situation under Brown going forward. Combined with improved fundraising they should be fine and recover from the recent tough times. One good thing about tought times–you get rid of marginal programs you should not be doing and focus on the core. Not a bad thing every 20 years or so.</p>
<p>It is a complex question. What is known is that 25 years ago, the State was responsible for more than 50 percent of the funding. Today that number is probably below 12 percent. Relying on private donations has become a must, but a possibility as the 3 billion campaign at Berkeley has shown. However, it will also be more important to change the culture of alumni giving, which has not been ingrained in the minds of many.</p>
<p>As far as how “all” of this “new” money will help undergraduates, it would be surprising if it does more than providing a boost to financial aid and scholarships. The focus and priorities of research universities remains the protection and well-being of the senior faculty and all its ancillary demands.</p>
<p>Serving the Californian high school graduate will become harder and harder, and this regardless of being able to raise 1.5 billion per annum at the UC level.</p>
<p>That is absolutely true, but also only true when you compare the UC to other state institutions. The total figure for the UC system should and does encompass UCSF. Adding UCSF to Cal’s numbers is pure non-sense, just as claiming that UCSF is Cal’s medical school. Fwiw, Cal’s numbers are remarkable for a public university, and do not need silly embellishments. </p>
<p>The “problem” started when the spin masters were unable to refrain from derailing this type of discussion by introducing their typical moronic boosterism of Cal.</p>
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<p>That is wishful thinking. The UC is not in better shape than it was. They just plugged holes to address the direst problems. </p>
<p>UC Berkeley, UC Davis, UCLA and UC Santa Cruz are all at risk of becoming financially unsustainable. UC Santa Barbara, UC San Diego, UC Riverside and UC Irvine while not as financially unsustainable as the others are already trending toward financial unsustainability.</p>
<p>Every plan to reduce expenses is usually based on curbing the growth of expenses. The future also hinges on continuing increases in outside funding, especially at the research level. This might be easier said than done in this financial climate and global measures of austerity. </p>
<p>Spending like drunken sailors cannot last, but is hard to give up.</p>
<p>Davis got its start as Cal’s agricultural campus. UCLA got its start as Cal’s southern branch campus. Davis and UCLA have evolved into full fledged research universities.</p>
<p>UCSF got its start and was annexed with Cal and run as its medical school campus. It remains the only UC that is medical science graduate studies only, and has not developed into a undergraduate school offering a variety of majors. Cal wanted to relocate the medical school back to Berkeley, but population needing to be served kept it in San Francisco. Cal hasn’t developed another medical campus in Berkeley because it would be redundant. </p>
<p>Berkeley’s alumni support is the greatest percentage. Some of the other campuses are shockingly low in alumni support.</p>
<p>Berkeley: 64.9% of individual donations from Alumni.
Los Angeles: 49.7%
Santa Barbara: 43.4%
Santa Cruz: 19.8%
Irvine: 18.8%
Riverside: 18.5%
San Diego: 8.2%
Davis: 5.2%
San Francisco: 0.9% - this supports that most outside individuals give to medical causes.
Merced: 0.1%</p>
<p>xiggi and UCB, I was not referring merely to the UCs, but to all universities. Few universities will raise more than $150 million from alums alone. The bulk of donations come from charitable foundations, government and corporations.</p>
<p>Still spinning. And still in need of a better calendar. </p>
<p>Toland Medical College was founded before the UC. It never functioned as an appendage of UC Berkeley and was never a part of the 160 original campus. </p>
<p>And, regardless of the correct history, it remains that UCSF is not part of Cal in any way, shape, or form. Just as Hastings is not a part of Berkeley Law. </p>