<p>How many bright, recent college graduates who were lured into the financial industry by promises of high pay and job security are now looking for a new career in law? Is there any evidence of an upsurge in applications to law school even at this early point in the cycle? Are more people than usual planning to sit for the October LSAT?</p>
<p>Does anyone have data? Historical examples? Personal stories? </p>
<p>Please share them with this forum.</p>
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<p>Since many of the financial woes are recent with the AIG, Lehman problems happening earlier this month, I don't think that students will be running to the Oct LSAT, which is this weekend (late registration may have been finished and the possibilty of getting a seat would have been greatly reduced by the time this news broke. </p>
<p>However, I would not be suprised to see an increase in the number of students taking the December LSAT (which they still have until Nov. 4 to register for) to get in to this year's cycle. Even now, many test centers are probably booked so some people may have to travel a bit of distance to sit for a test. You would also have to hope that students are adequately prepared to sit for the test.</p>
<p>just my $.02</p>
<p>Hazmat's link to the LSAC test data site suggests that there was a large upsurge for persons taking the LSAT in the 2001-2002 cycle (+23% year over year). No other year even compares in terms of increases, and the year with all-time high number of test takers was 2002-03. Since this was immediately after the dot.com crackup, it would suggest that we may see similar trends this year. No doubt, the schools are getting ready for a big wave of applications, and students who are ready should get their apps in early.</p>
<p>This country has too many lawyers as it is. Go to med school. Oh, that's right, you can't just take a test and apply to med school.</p>
<p>"Oh, that's right, you can't just take a test and apply to med school."</p>
<p>Uh, if you were a science major or an engineer, you can just take a test and apply to med school. It's really not a big deal.</p>
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<p>Uh, no. Med Schools, unlike law or business schools have prerequisite courses that must be satisfied before applying. Most science or engineering majors normally would not have taken all the prereqs.</p>
<p>if you just graduated college with a ba in social sciences how can you start getting ready for med school if you suddenly changed your mind and now want to do medicine? this is out of curiosity and i'm wondering, technically, can you not apply to med school by just taking a bunch of chem/sci classes at a community college and then someday take the mcat despite your social sciences degree?</p>
<p>I can answer that, but this is the law school forum. Perhaps you can go over to Med school forum to ask that question.</p>
<p>"Uh, no. Med Schools, unlike law or business schools have prerequisite courses that must be satisfied before applying. Most science or engineering majors normally would not have taken all the prereqs."</p>
<p>Uh, yes ... with the exception of Orgo, most science or engineering majors will have taken a year of chem, bio, and physics. Those are the required courses. And if you pay careful attention to the wording, at some schools, you need to have taken those reqs (including Orgo) by the time they enroll--NOT by the time you apply (though that's certainly the safest and more usual route). So, as you can probably see, if you have most of the requirements (heck, even half of them), you can take the MCAT and whatever else you have left (usually Orgo) as you apply to med school, provided it's all done by the time you would enroll. There have been several cases of people being admitted before satisfying all the curriculum requirements--with their admission offer being usually contingent on getting a good grade (B+) on those.</p>
<p>Moreover, there are several post-Bacc. premed programs where motivated people can squeeze all the pre-reqs in 9 to 12 months. Let's face it, the premed curriculum is not all that hard.</p>
<p>"if you just graduated college with a ba in social sciences how can you start getting ready for med school if you suddenly changed your mind and now want to do medicine? this is out of curiosity and i'm wondering, technically, can you not apply to med school by just taking a bunch of chem/sci classes at a community college and then someday take the mcat despite your social sciences degree?"</p>
<p>There is plenty of information about this on the med schol forum; go there. This is the law school forum. </p>
<p>That said, your post is a bit unclear: but yes, any (accredited) bachelor's degree will suffice, provide you take the premed classes and satisfy the curriculum. Post-bacc. programs are popular for this reason; you can graduate with a high GPA in, say, literature or race studies and then, after graduation, focus on the premed reqs. without have it go on your undergraduate record. In fact, this is probably a good strategy for people considering both law school and med school. </p>
<p>A word of caution, however: some med schools won't accept community college credits--even if these are accepted by your 4-year school and thus part of your bachelor's degree. So, while technically feasible to go that route, I would not bet on it if I wanted to be competitive.</p>
<p>Wildflower, since this is a law school forum, I won't post anymore here on that subject but based on what you have posted here it shows you are extremely ignorant of the med school application process.</p>
<p>CB: Speaking as a medical student, none of WF's assertions strike me as obviously erroneous. I might just have overlooked something.</p>
<p>wildflower, </p>
<p>"Post-bacc. programs are popular for this reason; you can graduate with a high GPA in, say, literature or race studies and then, after graduation, focus on the premed reqs. without have it go on your undergraduate record."</p>
<p>does that mean that the classes you take in the post bac program do not show on your med school application nor count towards your undergrad gpa and are solely meant to prepare you for the mcat?</p>
<p>"Wildflower, since this is a law school forum, I won't post anymore here on that subject but based on what you have posted here it shows you are extremely ignorant of the med school application process."</p>
<p>That's a nice cop-out. I am quite familiar with the med school application process. But if you can <em>prove</em> that what I said is not true or where my alleged "extreme ignorance" becomes evident, go right ahead, I'll gladly stand corrected. Otherwise please don't bother with petty attacks to make yourself feel good; it's rather distasteful. Thanks.</p>
<p>"does that mean that the classes you take in the post bac program do not show on your med school application nor count towards your undergrad gpa and are solely meant to prepare you for the mcat?"</p>
<p>No. It means that they don't go on your undergraduate transcript/academic record. You have to send these, however, with your med school application (how else would they know you fulfilled the requirements?).</p>
<p>wild,</p>
<p>"No. It means that they don't go on your undergraduate transcript/academic record. You have to send these, however, with your med school application (how else would they know you fulfilled the requirements?)."</p>
<p>if you did fairly well in the post bac program (better than undergrad) it will go unnoticed in the med school admissions process because they just focus on your undergrad transcript? what if you exceed well in the program? does that not count for admitting purposes, i should have included this in my last post, freaking me.</p>
<p>"if you did fairly well in the post bac program (better than undergrad) it will go unnoticed in the med school admissions process because they just focus on your undergrad transcript?"</p>
<p>The post-bacc (as well as your rationale for pursuing medicine now) is essential for admissions. Your best grades should be those, as, presumably, you are now older, more mature, and more focused.</p>
<p>wild, i checked into some of those programs and it says that applicants should have at least completed precalculus before applying to the postbac program. i haven't taken any calculus. is this true for all schools, some, or absolutely necessary? can they not teach you precal or cal in the program?</p>
<p>and which do you go to there are options here; a non-degree, non-certificate granting program, a non-degree, certificate granting program, or a degree-granting, certificate-granting program.</p>