<p>Yes, I do agree there's no such thing as a true match schools. Int finaid depends heavily on the school, your stats, your requirements and perhaps a degree of luck. Hence, match in the domestic sense might mean "probably get into" while match in the international sense might mean "probably get into with a reasonable amt of finaid".</p>
<p>"There are only nine colleges that are need blind for all applicants, including international students. These are Dartmouth College , Harvard University, Middlebury College, MIT, Princeton University, Williams College, Yale University, St. John's College, and Amherst College."</p>
<p>Isn't Georgetown need-blind as well? At least the say so.</p>
<p>But yeah, as it says in that article, don't think that it's easier to get admitted at need-blind schools. It's just more difficult for students who do NOT need financial aid.</p>
<p>I think Georgetown is need-blind in the admission process but they don't gurantee to meet your full need if admitted.</p>
<p>Purdue is one such college that provide superb education (especially engineering) and has comparitively low tut costs than the privates. </p>
<p>also purdue provides a lot of scholarship to intells. I got the presidents for a 1920 sat. </p>
<p>Its definitely better to be attending purdue and having to spend 25k than attending some silly private and spending >40k.</p>
<p>BTW, St. Johns is not a very good private and its probably the college whivh has the most criticism on this site....</p>
<p>St. Johns doesn't garner an unusual amount of criticism on CC...</p>
<p>@ Kowloon : I understand your need to find the 'match' schools for international students. But, this is not the way. You are asking too generalized opinions. If you post your stats and achievements, probably we can suggest some colleges. </p>
<p>As others have said before, for an international std demonstrating high financial need, you can not consider any college a match. However, having said so, don't forget to see the profile of the enrolled students. You have more chance at a college with 3.4 high school gpa and 1900-2100 in the 25 and 75 percentile than in HYPS. I don't mean this is a match, and you can expect to get admitted. But, you definetely have more chance.</p>
<p>However, if you are asking for financial aid, more or less as full ride, you must be real strong, allround. Go, search colleges and come back to CC for more advoices regarding that.</p>
<p>And, yes, don;t miss University of New Orleans. This is a must apply to intl std with high financial need. If you apply early and have more than 1210 composite score in SAT, you get the most geneous scholarship. The college is not worst, it is one of the best with low tuition costs - top Naval engineering program in US, top 25 film schools in US, #5 Environmental Social Science Program in USA, #5 Chemistry Program in Southeast, #5 Political Science Program in Southeast, 360 best value. i I applied there and I need to pay only $724 per year + insurance and personal expense.</p>
<p>jasonshah, did you first hear about the University of New Orleans through me ? I remember I always used to advertise it. I was about to go to the University of New Orleans, I also had the Chancellor Scholarship. I even paid the housing fee! However, about a few days before May 1 I was removed from the wait list at one of my colleges. </p>
<p>I think UNO is a good opportunity, even better with a full ride. It is a safety any international seeking aid should apply to. I imagine you applied to other schools as well ?</p>
<p>Anyway, if the OP applies to top colleges apply to A LOT. I was rejected or accepted without aid at 10 colleges I believe. Aim for a lot of colleges.</p>
<p>Well.. My scores arent the best that they can possibly be.
All my SATs are in the 25th pecentile of HYPS (which I guess, is decent, but not stellar),
my SAT IIs are 800, 690, 760, 650.
I took 4 APs and taking 6 next year, and I'm in top 10% of my school.
I guess I'm kind of a URM since I've lived in 7 different countries and can speak 3 languages at the level of a native speaker, and a little bit of 2 additional languages.</p>
<p>Lving in 7 countries doesn't make you a URM...</p>
<p>How about your ECs ? Would the teachers that recommended you know you well ? For how long ?</p>
<p>danhernan, yo se k las recomendaciones van a ser muy buenas. Y loko, yo no entiendo por k estos gringos no entienden k yo vivo en latin america, la cual es mucho mejor k ser un internacional de un pais como china/india/corea.</p>
<p>My recs are going to be decent at worst (my teachers really know me well)
@tetrisfan -> I live in Latin america. As far as I know, that's more advantageous than being an applicant from, say, china/india/korea. I guess you could call this a quasi-URM</p>
<p>@Kowloon: URM (Underrepresented Minorities) = African Americans, Hispanics, Native American Indians. If you/either of your parents/any of your grandparents (I don't know how far back you can go for this to apply to you) are not any of the above, you can't consider yourself a URM.</p>
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<p>I agree with this but only to a small extent. :)</p>
<p>Si, la competencia es mas dificil en Asia. Pero definitivamente no es facil en america latina. Estas compitiendo por fondos limitados contra gente que pasa su dia preparandose para examenes. El valedictorian de mi escuela lo rechazaron todas las ivies (menos columbia que no aplico), solo cornell lo acepto. No le dieron nada de dinero. Le ofrecieron dinero otras buenas universidades, pero no es asi regalado. Aplica a bastantes, la competencia es dificil especialmente en estos a</p>
<p>English? English, please?</p>
<p>Si, only english...</p>
<p>@Kowloon: Maybe I should rephrase myself: I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. </p>
<p>Like what danhernan said, you might be more than qualified (academically and/or otherwise) for acceptance to most colleges. And you definitely have a lot of things going for you: for example, your multicultural background, which most other international students would not have. However, you can't really tell what colleges have in mind as they look to build their incoming freshman class. They might need, say, a 2400/2400 SAT score, full-paying student from Korea or wherever. They would love to have someone like you on campus, but whatever criteria they use in creating the next class might result ultimately in you being edged out of the competition. And you can't even say for sure that you would have the advantage when applying to need-blind universities--it all boils down to the fact that we don't know exactly what adcoms want.</p>
<p>So yeah, there are technically no such things as clear-cut matches and safeties for international students asking for aid. But I think you might be able to find possible "matches" with LACs ranked, uhh, 25 to maybe 70? by USNWR (how do we love thee, o most venerable institution? Let us count the ways..)--except for Reed, I believe it's pretty much up THERE in terms of selectivity. You do have to make sure that they can and will meet 100% of your need if admitted, though. I have NO idea about the universities, 'cause my college search was limited to LACs only.</p>
<p>@danhernan: my pathetic Spanish can only take me so far, so.. what happened to the valedictorian? Is ze going to Cornell (I couldn't tell if they gave hir aid)? What about the other schools that accepted him?</p>
<p>No, Cornell did not give that person financial aid. He was offered aid by other top LACs, and will assist one located in New York state. Another kid who could afford it, got accepted to Cornell and will assist there. I believe he is top 10% or so, but not close to valedictorian.</p>
<p>What I said previously in English basically:
The valedictorian in my class applied to all ivys except Columbia (due to financial aid). He got accepted into Cornell, however with no aid. I also said that even though one may have the stats, that doesn't guarantee acceptance or money. I was rejected by Notre Dame, and in the rejection letter it stated that "Although your academic and personal qualities are impressive, the University does not have the financial resources to provide for the full cost of your education." It wasn't a generic letter, I asked other people who were rejected and it stated other reasons.</p>
<p>off-topic, i just noticed that i tried to stick to gender-neutral pronouns in my previous post, but i ended with a "him", hahaha, which turned out to be correct. and i already should've known it was a "he" with "el valedictorian".. meh. okay i'll stop now</p>
<p>cornell's known for being pretty stingy to international students anyway. that said, maybe we should come up with a list of schools that int'l students asking for fin aid should be wary of applying to..</p>
<p>So, I guess that the answer to my original question is that most int'l students who ask for aid are basically STUFFED, since "Matches" are pretty much non-existent for us... :(
Thanks to everyone who replied, I truly am, since this has motivated me to do better and maybe become the lucky one to be admitted with decent FinAid</p>