For Students: Think About Where the Job Growth Is

<p>Thanks, but I think that's called selective bias. You are selecting a few occurrences that fit the point you are trying to prove, but the national trend may or may not reflect that. Unless you have a study that suggests a national trend among job-seeking college graduates, I'm inclined to disagree.</p>

<p>Name a school and I'll look it up. I spent a little time at UC Boulder and it was even more regional.</p>

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It doesn't matter. Where you go to college should have little or nothing to do with some publication's ranking on regional job growth, especially for an undergraduate.

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<p>What an ignorant comment.</p>

<p>There is a reason why Northwestern and Loyola Chicago grads are more inclined to find jobs in the Midwest than anywhere else -- <a href="http://www.law.northwestern.edu/career/statistics/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.law.northwestern.edu/career/statistics/&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.luc.edu/law/career/statistics.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.luc.edu/law/career/statistics.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/career_employer/employment/2006/salary_geo.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/career_employer/employment/2006/salary_geo.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Oh look! Vanderbilt University grads tend to stay in the South as well -- <a href="http://law.vanderbilt.edu/employers-cs/facts--statistics/index.aspx%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://law.vanderbilt.edu/employers-cs/facts--statistics/index.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Wait for it...another one! UC Berkeley employment statistics. Guess where all the graduates stay?! Yup. California -- <a href="http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/groups/careercenter/02_03Stats.html#NINE%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/groups/careercenter/02_03Stats.html#NINE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>One more for good measure. Emory University. Hm I wonder where all the grads are employed? --
<a href="http://www.law.emory.edu/cms/site/index.php?id=2392%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.law.emory.edu/cms/site/index.php?id=2392&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yes, I realize that a lot of these links are for graduate students. However, bulge bracket firms recruit undergraduates solely on location. For example, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, Rice, Duke, Berkeley, and Georgetown are all academically stronger than New York University, but NYU has more representation on Wall Street and big i-banks because of its location in New York. I'd look up these stats for you, but I figured you're capable of doing that yourself, right?</p>

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I would say yes for that 10-15 years ago, but we are much more "national" nation now. People travel around all the time, especially people in finance, engineering, and medicine. I think a large contingent of college graduates will not seek a job near where they went to college, with **the gross outlier **exception of California, and even so, since it is becoming much more expensive to live in decent parts of California these days, a significant number of people will go elsewhere.

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<p>Do you enjoy throwing stat terms around just for the sake of sounding intelligent? You claim Cali is an "outlier" in terms of employment, so what is the IQR? The mean? What are the parameters of your observational study?</p>

<p>Next time you want to take a feeble crack at appearing knowledgeable, do your research first.</p>

<p>"A big part of it is construction and related trades. The important sectors for college grads would be FIRE, engineering and professional jobs. Growth in these areas may be totally different than overall growth. Most major companies, banks, and professional services firms that pay well are still in the older cities."</p>

<p>Not true in Phoenix. Google has a new building in town, along with several companies moving their headquarters here because of the cheap real estate prices and year-round good weather.</p>

<p>Sacramento, CA and Riverside, CA do not have a lot of high paying jobs. The jobs growth they are talking about could be construction or housing related.</p>

<p>I graduated from UT and I know from experience that the Austin job market can be tough for recent grads to crack into. There are tons of UT grads who want to stay in Austin after graduating and lots of people from other schools who come to Austin, so the entry level job market is oversaturated with recent grads. However, the picture gets much better with 3-5 years work experience. Many of my friends from UT had better luck in the Dallas/Fort Worth and Houston areas right out of school. </p>

<p>Also, be aware that many places will hire local candidates over people who would have to move for entry-level positions. Why wait a month or so for someone to move there when you can have someone who's already there start tomorrow? So, if you're set on a certain city and you're able to, you may want to move to that city before you have a job or, if possible, use a friend's address there to make it look like you live there. ;)</p>

<p>I don't understand why Houston is on the list though. Houston is the fourth largest city in the United States so employment is bound to be fairly high there.</p>

<p>Riverside's main growth will be in logistics. You can't just assume that is will be construction. I live right next to riverside and can easily attest to an extreme slowdown in new construction</p>

<p>I see more people from Riverside drive to OC or LA for jobs. People get up at dawn(more like 3-4ish) to make the long commute to LA, so there must not be a lot of high paying jobs, otherwise they would not put up with that kind of commute. Again, except the low paying jobs to support the people that live there, I'm still wondering what kind of job growth prospect in Riverside.</p>

<p>are you blind or did you not just read my last post? You are still wondering but i said it point blank</p>

<p>Your observations are true in respect to every place with cheaper housing, it is nothing new. Majority of those doing those already had jobs there and bought houses where they could afford to. Moderate traffic on the 60 coming from riverside is at 5</p>