For the naysayers...

<p>I thought you'd be interested in the following website statements from an ABA law school that one of the posters sent me in a PM. </p>

<p>"The Admissions Committee, comprised of faculty and students..."</p>

<p>1) Can it be true that there may be others that read files and have as much knowledge as an admissions representative? Or perhaps, a faculty member and a student by virtue of their serving on the admissions committee can be betowed the coveted title of admissions representative by Eric Meng?</p>

<p>"The Committe considers factors such as:
Course selection patterns"</p>

<p>2) Could it be Jonri that maybe some of the many who serve on these committees do consider certain majors one way or the other in their selection process?</p>

<p>"Quality and grading patterns of undergraduate institutions"</p>

<p>3) And maybe, Sakky some even have views of an institution's quality and how grades are distributed.</p>

<p>As I've stated before, law school admissions isn't a science. Many individuals are involved in the selection process and with that many biases are often brought into the process. I've given you my opinions and you have ridiculed me making who I am the issue, not what I believe. The purpose of a committee is to gather many different opinions so if one reviewer looks at a major as soft or a school as a chamption of grade inflation, another reviewer will have a different perspective and it will balance out.</p>

<p>Sorry, friend. First of all, to quote Ariesathena:</p>

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Your advice is useless if it's not based on any actual experience or knowledge of the process. It's called verifying your credentials.

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<p>I'll add to that - your advice is useless and even misleading if it represents only your own opinion about who should be admitted to a law school and does not represent prevailing opinions or practices in law school admissions.</p>

<p>From your post it sounds as if you are claiming to be involved in some way in a law school admissions process. However, from your post it also sounds as if you are a minority view in that process and have little or no authority to decide who is admitted to a law school. Unless you are in a position of some authority to decide that, your opinions and what you believe are no better than those of anyone else posting on this board. </p>

<p>Up to now we have received no verification from any moderator that you have any expertise or official (or even unofficial) capacity in law school admissions. Indeed, your posts have been sounding more and more like those of a student. You have never specified the nature of your experience in admissions in general or law school admissions in particular, and don't seem to want to. I am assuming that you have no official capacity in an admissions process.</p>

<p>Perhaps you are a student who has worked in an admissions office and/or sat in on admissions committee meetings. Perhaps you have even participated in some admissions decisions. That doesn't qualify you as having any business providing advice on these boards, unless you limit it to what you have seen decided by those actually on the admissions committees.</p>

<p>Or perhaps you have been involved for a long time in admissions, but you disagree with prevailing practices and want to use this board simply to express your beliefs and opinion as to how law school admissions should be run. Fine - as long as you make that clear.</p>

<p>Until you or the moderators provide any information confirming your status and/or expertise, I repeat - your opinions and what you believe are no better than those of anyone else posting here.</p>

<p>"I thought you'd be interested in the following website statements from an ABA law school that one of the posters sent me in a PM."</p>

<p>can you post up the link to the website? thanks</p>

<p>"The Admissions Committee, comprised of faculty and students..."</p>

<p>that's somewhat of a tricky statement. one of the TA's in my education class has sat on the "admissions committee" of stanford's med school, yet she wasn't even a medical school student but rather a grad student in education. but her role was to eliminate most of the applicants who did not fall into the statistical range for their med school. but after that, all the apps were then forwarded to the real admissions officers who did most of the reading and final decision making. so, i don't know, PERHAPS law schools might have something similar, but in any case, i don't think the students are making the final decision. they are merely there to help sort out the apps, if they are even there at all. </p>

<p>but i do want to note that my TA is a student at one of the top graduate schools of education in the country and has done research on admissions and has received training on being on an adcom. all the other TA's (who have sat on adcoms) that i've met in the graduate school of education have similar credentials.</p>

<p>Hey Sam's Dad - If you are so certain of who I am, then why do you even bother to respond? Since you seem to know everything, including who I am, then why don't you tell everyone on this board what qualifies one to provide advice on this board? I didn't make the three points up, Sam's Dad, they are clearly posted on an ABA law school's website, so maybe you should take your issue up with the school and chastise them for allowing faculty and students to participate in the admissions process and for heaven's sake, for considering course selection patterns and grade distribution. I suggest next time before you go off on a tangent and waste reader's time with your opinions that are irrelevant to the discussion, take a deep breath, re-read the post and count to ten.</p>

<p>Kentucky Fried For You - You are right, the students do not make the final decision. But either does the admissions director, dean or the faculty members on the committee. It's a committee and several opinions are considered.</p>

<p>ricz,</p>

<p>can you post up the ABA law school's website that proves what you claim to be true? it would be a lot more convincing if you could do that.</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>well, what i'm trying to say in my example is that students (not from the law school but most likely from grad schools of education) might be working in the admissions office to help sort out the apps or even make preliminary decisions like weeding out the weakest applicants, but an admissions committee of full-time admissions officers gets together and makes the final decision on who gets admitted (most likely without the input of the students).</p>

<p>What qualifies one to provide advice on this board is experience and knowledge. There are no requirements for providing *opinions or beliefs * here.</p>

<p>When one is purporting to offer advice, with a supposed basis of experience, but is really offering only opinions, then that advice is misleading.</p>

<p>I think my point's been confirmed. This is not worth any more of my time. So long, ric.</p>

<p>You example is well taken, Kentucky Fried...but every school operates differently and files are sometimes read and evaluated by a sundry of individuals with different backgrounds - faculty, advisory board members, students, administrators in related departments, etc. The posters on this board are fixated on the fact that admissions personnel are solely responsible for the admissions of the students. And thanks Sam's Dad for confirming the fact that my experience and knowledge meets your litmus test for providing advice. You may, however have a reading comprehension shortcoming however, because I have never provided advice - only information based on my experiences. Here's the linke KFC:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.law.asu.edu/Admissions/GeneralInformation.aspx%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.law.asu.edu/Admissions/GeneralInformation.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Ric: I didn't confirm anything about you, and you know it. All that you have done is say that all sorts of people sit on admissions committees. You never have specified what your role has been and I would be surprised if you ever do.</p>

<p>As far as I'm concerned, at this point your opinions are only opinions and your information is unsubstantiated, hence worthless. I hope that the students looking for information and advice on these boards understand that, and stop looking for it from you until your experience has been substantiated.</p>

<p>As far as your opinions and beliefs, you're as entitled to them as anyone else.</p>

<p>Bye, this time permanently.</p>