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<p>My apologies on the two words that are misspelled (note that they are typing errors.) You didn't take me seriously? Didn't notice that.</p>
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You must be one of those people who are totally shocked that a non-ivy could actually be at the same level, or <gasp> possibly a little worse than another school. The ivy league is just based on an athletic conference anyways. Do you look down on someone wearing an MIT, Williams, or Duke sweatshirt because it doesn't have "Harvard" written across its chest?
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<p>No, I have the utmost respect for MIT and Stanford, and I definitely find them stronger in many respects then, say Brown or Columbia. In many ways, these schools are as strong or stronger than Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. I'm certainly not obsessed with the Ivy league schools - I'm not even planning on applying to any. But your posts smacks of the usual "I'm going to take these schools down a notch."</p>
<p>Your claims all sound like you're badly trying to show up as smarter or more capable than Ivy league students ...</p>
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With less studying than I had to do at my own school, I aced the class, and destroyed the curve for everyone else.
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<p>Like Bern said, get over your insecurities.</p>
<p>The reality is that Ivy league schools are excellent. This isn't an exclusive statement - they aren't the only excellent schools, but they are excellent.</p>
<p>If you don't like the "Ivies atmosphere", why did you pick there for graduate school? I would rather listen to thousands of other posters who actually substantiate their claims.</p>
<p>jesus christ. all i was saying that there was is more to life than an ivy league education. i'm not trying in anyway to insult the ivies in any manner, and i can happily state that i'll be applying to a mix of ivies and state schools for my phd this fall. i was just trying to make a point that you can get just as good of an education at a place thats not harvard. some people are awfully sensitive.</p>
<p>and my ego doesn't need a boost thank you very much, i am quite content with my education. i thought that this information would be a useful reassurance to those who are doubting if they will be hindered by picking a lesser known school over another one. </p>
<p>and dooit, how on earth did you manage to pull out of my posts that i didn't like the atomosphere? all i said was that the students at my undergrad were more interesting and the profs were better. which i wouldn't have known before applying to grad schools anyways.</p>
<p>anything else anyone would like to accuse me of? im ready.</p>
<p>huskem55, in general I can share your sentiments of your first post as I have a similar experience...I guess as far the academic and social aspects. Though I do have to remind myself that when ones uses the word "better" in reference to schools, one also has to clarify "better" for what?</p>
<p>This thread makes no sense for the following reasons</p>
<p>1) Not all Ivies are alike. The poster loved his undergraduate experience at a LACish environment, which is offered at both Princeton and Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Cornell are totally different in terms of size and teaching (Dartmouth is a LAC, Cornell a large university), so it is false to assume all Ivies are the same animal.</p>
<p>2) The undergraduate and graduate experience is very different. Depending on strength of program and type of program they are not remotely comparable to undergrad, or even between each other. The business school experience is the opposite of a grad experience as a Ph.D candidate in anthropology.</p>
<p>3) Not all Ivy grad programs are top tier. Brown and Dartmouth focus on undergrads, so many grad programs aren't their strength for example. It sounds horrible, but I know at Dartmouth most thought of the grad students as at a much lower level than the undergrads (with exception to Tuck, med school, etc). Other Ivies have a variety of less selective programs - programs like Columbia Social Work, etc come to mind.</p>
<p>We KNOW that there is a life outside of the Ivies, but since these schools are considered to be of the highest caliber, we enjoy applying to these schools and see how we fare against the rest of the world. No one on this board has ever deprecated LACs nor have we ridiculed anyone on CC who has aimed for lower schools with the exceptions of a few jokers.</p>
<p>I guess you didn't catch my drift the first time, so I'm gonna make it a little more obvious this time around: WE DON'T CARE. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.</p>
<p>huskem we appreciate the sentiment, and we understand where your coming from, but don't assume that CC is full of Ivy-obsessed freaks who don't have the sense to look elsewhere. And we've heard it many times already. Actually, it seems to be the predominant sentiment of not only CC, but any college guide that looks past reputation and name that the Ivies are not everything. People on CC are pretty savvy, they all know these things already, and I think they have moved past such superficiality to looking at each school individually. I think this is why people were angry about your post: it seemed like you were preaching ot the choir. Thanks though, and have a good one.</p>
<p>yeah, echoing what i said earlier and everyone else said - there is no such thing as an Ivy League bias in CC, where people only like the Ivy League</p>
<p>Instead, I'd say there is a prestige bias, where people only look at the top private universities and neglect everything else.</p>
<p>But yeah, CC is too politically correct for there to be people who think its the Ivy League and everything else, with the former being the only worthwhile group of schools</p>