<p>Is it true that if you get into ivy league, you will make more money than people who go to inferior colleges and have more respect?</p>
<p>See incredibly bloated thread in Parents Forum on "Lifetime advantages of attending top colleges".</p>
<p>How does going to an inferior college mean you have respect? Anyway, it is a certifiable fact that those who get into Ivy Leagues and prestigious colleges make more than those who don't. And your post is ambiguous as you've compared people who GET IN to an Ivy League to those who GO to an inferior college. Those two groups do often overlap.</p>
<p>Actually, untrue. There are studies that show that people accepted to ivy league colleges but who chose to attend less prestigious colleges make the same amount of money.</p>
<p>The moral of the story: it's YOU who determines your success.</p>
<p>thanks for clearing that fact drummerdude.... I don't know anyone from HYSP who isn't like a lawyer, doctor, dentist, CEO, etc.... </p>
<p>So I'm just assuming that non-ivy league students can't make a lot of moeny from your post</p>
<p>lingbo, I am aware of this. That is why I said those who GET IN make more money, not those who go. But for every study that says it doesn't matter if you go or not, there is a study that says that those that go make more. Who knows which one is right? And Oistrakh, to say non-Ivies can't make a lot of money is stupid. It's just that smaller percentages. And I don't like when people use Ivy League as a term, because we all know that Stanford, Duke, MIT, and CIT are all better than Cornell and Brown.</p>
<p>browns a good school...I'd be really happy to get into brown, seeing how popular and competitive its become</p>
<p>Maybe, maybe not. People who attend Ivy League schools are highly intelligent, very goal-oriented, and very hard working. They do succeed at a higher rate than students from "lesser" schools, but how much of that success can be attributed to their schools is uncertain. Someone who is accepted at Ivies or has Ivy-quality credentials will likely do extremely well, too.</p>
<p>And I should mention that the Ivy League comprises 8 universities - there are at least 20-30 other very prestigious and very high quality universities in the US, many of which have students who are better than or equivalent to students at many Ivies.</p>
<p>True to both posts. Although I'm not a fan of Brown's totally open curriculum and their intense politically correct leftism. I think Cavalier sums up what we've all said quite well.</p>
<p>i just read an article about this. i'll try to find it. but basically the gist of the article was that some economist believe that Ivy bound kids will be successful regardless of their ivy education. the logic behind that being, if a kid is smart enough/ambitious enough to get into an ivy league school, they most likely have the smarts/ambition to succeed immensely in their fields/careers. however, the article also presented the counter view that Ivy schools allow for connections that can prove to be integral to success. But overall, the article stated that with the rising costs of an ivy education it may not be worth it anyway. the only time it would be worth it is if you are black, hispanic, or native american. in that case, according to the article, you should try to attend an ivy no matter what the cost.</p>
<p>alright first to clear up your question about if you can only be rich if you go to ivy league... not true at all, my graphics imaging teacher went to some "third tier" university, i think it was VCU, and the dude is rich now, he lives in like a 2 million dollar house next to a lake or river, he has his own boat (like a really nice boat that he keeps on the lake), has like 10 cars including a Porsche Boxster and some nice Mercedes SUV, he has more stuff too but i think you get the picture... so obviously people who went to "lesser" schools can make a lot of money as well...</p>
<p>i remember i asked him how much his income was for last year was and he was like $250K, i think thats more than some doctors make so... yea</p>
<p>and in case anyone was wondering he makes most of his money through his computer business (obviously not through teaching)</p>
<p>your success after college depends entirely upon you, not the institution. having the name of a good college on the diploma probably helps you in certain aspects but if that was all that mattered no one who ever went to a top university would ever have to work hard again, and that's just not the case. your success after college depends entirely upon how hard you are willing to work after college just as your success in high school depended how hard you were willing to work in high school...</p>
<p>Ridiculous notion. It's just like saying that the only way to become a billionaire is to drop out of college, as many did. Total, unadulterated BS.</p>
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<p>My mom is Ivy educated (Barnard), and my dad isnt (he couldnt afford to pay for Penn because his parents didnt have enough to pay the tuition). My parents are both certified lawyers. My dad probably did better then my mom, and has been more successful in the working world (my mom stopped working though). So just FYI people. Plenty of people are very successful and dont come from Ivy-educations.</p>
<p>Most of what's said here is right. The study doesn't conclude that all Ivy League students will be the same as all (other school) students, but it does say that if you're qualified enough to get into an Ivy in the first place, you will most likely be successful. The reason why going to an Ivy seems to increase this chance is because there's a higher concentration of those types of people at Ivy schools.</p>
<p>Also: Barnard is technically not an Ivy.</p>
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<p>well, now, that's just a stupid thing to say. both brown and cornell are terrific schools, and as someone else on this thread said, i would be thrilled to get into either. all the schools you're comparing are quite different, meaning one is not necessarily better overall than another. it really all depends on what you're looking for and what you plan to do.</p>
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<p>Oh yeah... those schools are definitely better than cornell and brown in all respects!</p>
<p>I mean, MIT and CIT completely and absolutely blow Cornell and Brown out of the water in English, History, Psychology, Journalism, Art, Humanities, Architecture/Hotel Management (at Cornell), etc. etc. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Brown has one of the better direct medical programs in the nation...</p>
<p>Even though MIT/CIT engineering probably edge Cornell's... being an engineer at MIT/CIT means you're gonna have to be an engineer for your career, if you know what I mean...</p>
<p>Brown/Cornell are also right up there with Duke/Stanford (unless you're a prestige whore... in which case Duke is probably equal to Brown/Cornell and Stanford a bit higher)...</p>
<p>But anyway... to the OP, going to an Ivy guarantees nothing... graduating from an Ivy guarantees nothing (except your bachelor's of course)... I would take a 3.9 at a flagship state school over a 3.4 at Harvard anyday!</p>
<p>I figured there'd be an angry post like that. When it comes down to it, the respective strong suits of CIT/MIT are better than the strong suits of Cornell/Brown, Ok? And no way Brown or Cornell is up there with Stanford.</p>
<p>but its probably true you will get more respect if you graduated from an ivy league school, than to have people say "huh?" when you tell them where you went to college</p>
<p>honestly, drummerdue_07, get over it. you have one opinion and many others happen to disagree. you can say all the **** about brown and cornell you want...doesn't make it true.</p>
<p>Although I don't know where it is, a friend sent me a link to an article on cc.com that completely refutes that claim.</p>