<p>The first post notwithstanding, in which I mis-responded when I used the word "neither" (which makes the post read as if I were saying frats don't do community service [they do]), and although I still stand-by the observation that fraternities are just a random sampling (is average bad? or is average, average?), I've been neutral to fraternities; I just abhor dumb arguments, especially when it comes to misuse of statistics. If there's been a surplus of specious pro-frat arguments, then I will have a glut of anti-pro-frat-argument posts. </p>
<p>Sororities, however, I disdain. Fraternities and sororities are different creatures.</p>
<p>If there's an opportunity cost with everything, then there's not much point in explicitly mentioning it in every case.</p>
<p>For rushing, the opportunity cost is dinner in a dining hall and whatever else you might have been up to that afternoon/evening. Nothing too earth-shaking.</p>
<p>depends. if the school has a large greek life, join, other wise dont. girls with jump on you (especially freshmans) so they know someone in the frat who would give them connections to enter the party. (for list parties)</p>
<p>Hey just wondering, I went to college and didn't go rushing. A friend of mine that I respect told me I should since there's nothing to lose, and its a great way to meet people and get to go to parties as well. He was never in a frat but had good relations with people who were and rushed in his past.</p>
<p>Now I'm going to be a grad student, 23, and I was wondering how frats look upon my kind? I'm certainly going to rush, I've got nothing to lose really, but I'm wondering if I'll get some respect, be treated the same, or get my balls busted. I'm going to a university in the south with a large greek system, I was wondering how you decide on what frat to rush too?</p>
<p>frats are different campus to campus. for example, phi sig, at my school is the most creepiest, the most frowned upon frat for their sausagefests and being just creepy to girls. phi sig in UI-Urbana Champagne is considered to be awesome. </p>
<p>But regarding your situation, it might be kind of weird to hear that a grad is rushing, and being a total slave to undergrad kids but you know, you do what you do. but since you are a grad, older, maybe wiser, they might not make your rush experience bad (using this term loosely) as opposed to undergrad fresh/soph rushees. </p>
<p>why dont you just go to the bars and hit on women?</p>
<p>so you would rather enslave yourself to bunch of guys to do their every whim of thoughts for couple of months than hit on drunk girls? </p>
<p>honestly im not in a frat, seriously thought about it though after the first frat party i went to. a hot girl was just all over me all night and then ditched me when i told her the reason we couldnt go upstairs and hookup right now is because i dont have a room in this particular house because i dont belong to the frat.
this was probably because my entire school parties are list parties, if youre not on it youre not coming in (with a few exceptions). </p>
<p>having lots of friends who are in different frats help alot. frats dont host parties every day between thurs-sat. so what do you do if youre in a frat? you do nothing. i however get to travel throughout the campus to get drunk and meet fabulous people i will never remember.</p>
<p>I was being sarcastic in my last post, but don't completely absolve yourself of blame and instead resent frat guys for failing to seal the deal with some hot bimbo because you weren't a frat brother. Either find a way to overcome girls' fickleness (i.e. you could had started messing around with her in public or tried to find a room to steal) or accept the consequences of you having not joined a frat. Don't be surprised when you skimp on the monetary and opportunity costs of joining a frat only to be unable to reap the benefits of being in one.</p>
<p>I mean... are you sure the girl ditched you because you weren't a frat brother? Or was it because she thought you were chicken**** for not having found a way to bang her regardless? </p>
<p>I'm not accusing you of being a pussy, that's certainly a difficult situation to be in, but to automatically reduce it to her being that shallow doesn't paint the whole picture.</p>
<p>I dont know. I'm pretty sure she was on my c*ck all night.
And leah, if you dont know yet or confused about how awesome I am, I am. Everybody wants me. That smiley face is winking at me with lust. Thats how charming and suave I am. </p>
<p>Anyways she said lets go to your room after dancing and making out etc.. I said its kind of far away from here, lets just go to the bathroom. She asked why isnt your room in here? Are you not a brother? I replied No. She said oh, okay. And walked off. You dont have to be Einstein to figure out that she only wanted the hookups. And I am also certain of my theory because she went out of her way to find a brother and made herself snuggle on his privates.</p>
<p>First of, the conversation between me and her were alot more slurred. Second of all, I don't lie. I just hate lies and liars. I mean jokes are fine. White lies to suprise someone or something etc... all okay. I just can't lie.
Besides If I said I was a brother and someone over heard it, especially a brother, I get beat up, kicked out, and no longer would not be able to enjoy delicious beverages, that come by 32 packs for your convenience, that is accompanied by lesser forms of skanks.</p>
<p>I never said frats were bad. I have lots of friends in the greek life. They enjoy it. I enjoy their perks. I was offered several bids but all politely declined and told them I don't think I would able to handle the pledgeship with classes for my double major with two minors. </p>
<p>But honestly if I can go to the bars and clubs and drink, I would think that those perks would be the same as being in a frat without the financial and temporal obligations.</p>