<p>What exactly is this preppy style that is looked upon with disdain/worn proudly by some? I thought I was familiar with it just being polos, sometimes with those plaid shorts and flip-flops in the summer months. Nothing outlandish, aside from the few morons you see with 6 inch collars flapped up to their ear lobe or the two polos under another. But that's universally regarded as idiotic, and surely can't be what you guys refer to as UVA's 'preppy'?</p>
<p>SAE...forgot that one. The DKE pledge I was talking about (from southern MD) was deciding between SAE and DKE, and was telling us that apperently SAE brands your butt post-pledging. And I thought DKE was hardcore (lets see, he's drank a live goldfish, ran through sewer water, had to report to the house for a work-party at 4am one saturday, then 3am the next sunday morning, ate dog food...).
SAE/KappaSig from what i've heard takes kids from VA or lower only
KA and DKE will take the few northerners (as in MD), but it's still rare</p>
<p>While that's only a few frats, the other ones still are a majority southern boys (except AEPi, the jewish frat..I don't think there are any guys in there from the south infact haha) with others mixed in. </p>
<p>So, there will be your fratty/southern boys, no way around it. But remember, there is a ton of other people who are not the mainstream frat/sorority kids, and even those who go greek can be awesome. But, if you go to school somewhere below the Mason Dixon line, you're going to have the southern feel to it.</p>
<p>Okay... that sounds pleasant...</p>
<p>Southern tradition = fratty/southern boys (that are either rich or their daddies were in a frat...or both) = hardcore southern frats = huge drinking/party scene</p>
<p>one side of UVA life</p>
<p>Sounds... ew.</p>
<p>Wonder what a nondrinker like myself will do.</p>
<p>Well, there's plenty to do if you don't drink. Movies, concerts, plays, student programs, ect, is all offered on campus or a short bus ride away. But it's a lie to say that a majority of the first-year class, and the campus, doesn't drink. However, there's always plenty to do at any campus if you don't drink, it just takes a bit more effort to find.</p>
<p>My friends brother was pledging that frat that brands you, when it came around to branding he left the frat because of the gayness of it.</p>
<p>This is probably a very naive question but...do colleges just not care about underage drinking?</p>
<p>you will learn all the underage drinking procedures (if you're "caught" or if you need your stomach pumped, etc) once you get here from the many lectures and ra talks you get.</p>
<p>as for not drinking, Hoos Sober sends out a weekly mailing list filled with stuff to do over the weekend. "Students can subscribe by e-mailing <a href="mailto:hoos-sober@virginia.edu">hoos-sober@virginia.edu</a> with "subscribe" in the subject line." VSPA (I think you're auto subscribed to this one) also sends out typically sober activites going on each week.</p>
<p>ooo stomach pump. Sounds exciting.</p>
<p>It's not that colleges don't care, its just that there's better things they can be doing. An RA isn't going to be standing at your door or police canvasing campus to find students with BACs (blood alcohol content) of .08%. However, if you're throwing up everywhere, passed out over the toilet, or stumbling around visably "trashed", then yes, you're going to draw attention to yourself and you can get a VSOC (it's UVA's "punishment" system...you can get one for being drunk, posession, or simply being too loud at an ungodly hour...other schools have other systems and will call a VSOC something else). But as long as kids are being safe, and not being totally stupid or causing harm to others/property/themselves, RAs and the police will generally leave you alone. Especially at a school with 13,000 undergrads, its hard to catch everyone.
As hazelord said, wherever you go, the school will inform you of their drinking rules either during orientation or during the first week or so of school. But, as for the rules, think Pirates of the Carribean: "the Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules."
Have fun!</p>
<p>PS- on stomach pumping: it's no fun. I know two girls ho had to have it done, and it sucks for sooo many reasons. First, the overall stomach pumping experience just sucks, and they try to make sure you're concious for it, which makes it even worse. Not trying to be gross, but they basically stick a tube down your throat (via mouth or nose), and suck. Second, you'll get the worst hangover/awful feeling you've ever had, no matter how well you handle next-mornings after drinking a ton (i happen to not get hangovers, and I enjoy it, but there's no way to avoid feeling like crap after this deal). Third, most often your school will find out and you can get in trouble with them (see above about VSOC). Fourth, you get a huge hospital bill, and your parents may not like that.
So, pace yourself when drinking...it's easy to drink, have a good time, and not get in trouble or end up in the hospital...or drunk tank haha</p>
<p>Haha. Well I mean i used to drink... just, sorta trying out this whole not-drinking thing cuz it sounds pretty cool.</p>
<p>edit: shoebox I love you. you quoted Pirates!</p>
<p>my name is hazel orb btw. haze lord... now what would that be. also that would imply im a guy. which im definitely not.</p>
<p>"My friends brother was pledging that frat that brands you, when it came around to branding he left the frat because of the gayness of it."</p>
<p>What is it that this 'gayness' is supposed to mean? Please don't use this word as a synonym for stupidity or something to that effect.</p>
<p>hazelorb: my apologies. I feel your pain though, as everywhere i'm labled as "he" or "him", and talking about engineering doesn't help it at all. And i'm definently a girl. </p>
<p>tenniscraze: i doubt they meant it that way.</p>
<p>Another point to add: if you're worried about having to party at the southern frat, don't. Many frats have all types of people show up, and that's the beauty of having such a large Greek scene. It's easy to get out in a mainstream way but still meet people you would want to relate to.</p>
<p>Kappa Sig would take Virginian kids, but nothing above it. One of the guys from my public high school pledged there, haha. DKE is pretty receptive to northerners as well as long as you are wealthy as sh<strong>. Zete's bid delivery process is really interesting. They werent in coat and ties, and they chanted "</strong>*** those guys, in their ties, go zete go mother*<strong><em>ing zete, go zete go mother</em></strong>*ing zete". It was pretty sweet.</p>
<p>The more southern ones are: hall, ka, dke, zete, chi phi, sae, kappa sig and maybe pika. That's only 8 houses. You can attend parties hosted by the rest of the 24 houses.</p>
<p>UVa southerness=croakies with their ray ban wayfarers, reds, sperrys (I wonder how many of them actually sail), seersuckers shorts.</p>
<p>People talk about "the look" of UVa, but to be frank, I don't see the image as unique to UVa. I think high school students around the country look remarkably similar these days. </p>
<p>I blame the mall culture...you all seem to shop at the same stores. It doesn't matter where I go, the mall will have the same stores, with the same window displays, and the same music blaring. </p>
<p>By the way, before J. Crew picked them up, the only place you'd see Nantucket Reds was at the beach. Now, I see students wearing them in the middle of March.</p>
<p>shoebox10 - not trying to sound antagonistic in any way but aren't you still in the process of transferring to UVA? If I remember your former post's you're a VT student that will be transferring to the university. It just sounds like you're already a university student so I'm confused, lol.</p>
<p>at UVA RA's can't reprimand you for simply being drunk, if I remember correctly a friend of mine said at VT that they can. Basically if you're drawing attention to yourself in an unsafe manner then you can get in trouble.</p>
<p>UVA will be as fratty/southern as you want it to be, how you decide to spend your four years here will dictate the lifestyle that surrounds you.</p>
<p>Protean - I am infact a VT student. But this whole transferring process has put me in a position to try to find out everything about UVa to make sure i'm making a smart choice (which I know I am =P). Also, I have a ton of friends there, so I've been up there three times this semester thus far (once for a transfer open house, then for the SEAS open house, and then for a concert at Starr Hill of a favorite band of mine that isn't very mainstream). And when you're at UVA Friday-Sunday, or Thursday-Sunday as it was the last two times, you learn a lot about the weekend life =P I've done a ton of research into UVA, the E-school, and the EE curriculum, and the social knowledge comes from experience/tales/friends.</p>
<p>As for VT's drunk policy: yes, technically your RA can give you a JR if you're drunk. But only if you're making a scene. And frankly, most RA's shut their door quietly on weekend nights, and as long as you avoid the coverage RA (by not puking, stumbling everywhere, ect ect), you're fine. As for UVA, they can do something if you're drunk and making a scene, as well. It's about the same policy at each university, it just really depends on each RA.</p>
<p>I find it really sad when people memorize and know all the frats/sororities....just shows where ur priorities lie....and also, i dont find anything respectable about forcing someone to eat dog food, run through sewage water and eat a live goldfish..thats really dehumanizing and i find it utterly amazing how people are willing to do that to themselves just to join something as stupid as a fraternity that is based on racial prejudice, hatred, bigotry, hypermasculine behavior, and degradation of women</p>