From Chicago to Pittsburgh and everywhere in between

<p>Here's a little summary of the road trip my mom and I just took, for your consideration.</p>

<p>2 Saturdays ago, we flew to Midway airport, and on Sunday drove ourselves on up to see Northwestern University in Evanston, IL. Yes, it was Sunday which was OK because I wasn't (and still am not) interested in attending. But it was my first day dealing with the horrible humidity. [I am willing to propose that the following week was about as hot and humid as it gets in many of the places we visited.]</p>

<p>Oh my God! Northwestern is beautiful! No flippin' way! I was shocked, like drop-my-jaw shocked at the beauty of the buildings, the quads, the surrounding (expensive-looking) town, and obviously the lakefront park that ends in a trailing beach, which was packed with happy, tanned sunbathers. It really was paradisiacal. Oh, and the one awesome frat house (and I am girl) that I would have loved to live in: the one with blue trim and, even in August when no self-respecting student would stick around in that weather, there were still chairs on the awning above the entranceway! The only possible way to have gotten them up there would be through a narrow bedroom window or tossing them from the lawn. What fun! But gee, it was almost <em>too</em> nice. Creepily so. And the neighborhood looked so wealthy, and I didn't see many cheap diversions for students. It was almost like an NU bubble, this beachy, gorgeous, trance-like bubble. But I'm not considering it mainly for the size and nature of its student body, and also because I know too many people who have gone there.</p>

<p>So the next morning, Monday, we ended up at UChicago for my first tour of the trip; I hadn't expected nearly the crowd we had! (This also happened to be my first college tour ever.) Now, I came here saying to myself, "I'm applying wether I like it or not, it's Chicago and I will love it." And for whatever reason now when I think back on it the memory is murky and neither positive nor negative. The campus itself, like all we visited, was surprisingly nice. The students were friendly and--wow--so intellectually diverse. The classrooms were sturdy and academic-feeling. The whole place just had an air of extreme smartness. Gee... the word isn't intimidating exactly, but not pretentiousness either. It's hard to say what exactly causes the murkiness in my recollections. But I didn't think that I could see myself there. I didn't feel as if this campus was my campus. And as much as Chicago, the city, is cool, it just seemed chaotic and messy (but not grimy or dirty). For whatever reason, I think I'd like to leave the crazy-big-city scene for a while, as I live in L.A. and will probably only apply to USC as my requisite family-and-school-ties-and-it's-local school. Butttt there were gargoyles at UChicago. I wanted to take them home with me!</p>

<p>So we stopped, on Tuesday after spending 2.5 days in the Second City, at Notre Dame, which despite being the home-away-from-home of many of my older friends, failed to impress. This is a bad judgement of course on my part, as I didn't bother to take a tour or anything. The non-historic part of campus just seemed boxy and average and grassy without being social. Yes, the old campus center was astonishingly pretty, but that was it. 5 buildings out of a bit more than a square mile of bland. Yet as I sat on a bench in the shade on that middle quad walkway, I met some of the most personable squirrels ever. ND squirrels are amazing! They're massive and unafraid, and seemed to understand what I said, which in a vermin was frightening and fun both.</p>

<p>So then, in the course of one day, still Tuesday, we made it all the way from Chicago (via South Bend) to Mt. Vernon, Ohio. That is a very, very long drive. We were in 3 states in one day with time to spare on both ends, and didn't break the speed limit very much at all. [Wow, midwestern states are small.] So the road to Mt. Vernon gets narrower staring in Toledo, and narrower and narrower still until you're on basically a farm road. "What is in Mt. Vernon, Ohio," you may ask. Nothing (besides Mt. Vernon Nazarene University which in this tiny, tiny town I managed not to see) but hotels and an McDonald's. But in the village next door, Gambier, is Kenyon College, which was also extremely not what I expected and infinitely more beautiful. It has this amazing mile-long path that stretches the length of this narrow, almost symmetrical campus, called Middlepath. It is, at least when there are students around, the social center of campus; people walking back and forth, even through the village of Gambier, which is actually 2 blocks on either side of Middlepath that divides the campus into north and south. The buildings on campus are light brown brick, and look as a teeny LAC's should. On the tour feedback form, I made an understatement when I said "idyllic." But sadly it felt too insular. Not isolated, even being hours from a reasonably sized city (Columbus, or in a stretch Cincinnati), because the utter natural beauty of the woods and meadows surrounding the place. But it is, it seemed, separated even from that natural area. It's just Kenyon there to a student, not the woods of Ohio, not anything around it. It's seemed disconnected from the rest of the region and maybe a little more from actual real life. Basically it reminded me of my equally lovely and disconnected high school. And I can't repeat that for another four years. If I could bring myself to do that, then by God, Kenyon is heaven on earth.</p>

<p>So after my tour there my mom and I drove for a very short time to Oberlin, Ohio. We passed a Mennonite man driving his horse plow over his land, in a beard and well-kept straw hat. His land was adjacent to a more modernized farmer's, who had a pickup truck and some kids' toys in the yard. How cool! The town of Oberlin was less of the college than, say, Gambier was to Kenyon, but it does wrap around the college (obviously, Oberlin College) to a high degree and looks as if it depends on the school. In my opinion it looked like the perfect college town. --And I should mention that before visiting I wasn't at all interesting in Oberlin. But after seeing the place in the afternoon light, I realized how comfortable this campus felt. It was open and relaxed. The living looked good. When I took my tour the next morning, I really liked what I saw. Unlike at Kenyon, students took all the initiative and created what they wanted, wrote grants, grew the food, ran the co-ops, and even, and I AM NOT KIDDING, clean the used sewage water for re-use in the restrooms (but not the water fountains, don't worry). They compost and the environmental science building is new and produces more energy than it uses. Now that is good science. My one concern about Oberlin is the "social justice" obsession that students seem to have. I don't disagree with the idea of it, but coming from a school that is very pushy itself about social justice and in ways with which I personally disagree (but I don't want to sound soulless), I don't want to suffer through 4 years of a privileged white kid whining about the situation of the world. But I really will have to look into that deeper, and talk to students, just to see if the do things more than plan things. I hope they do, because I really liked the place.</p>

<p>I should mention that Ohio is on Eastern time. What?!</p>

<p>And then came Pittsburgh. I will start by saying that the entrance from the northwest into the city is very, very cool and I recommend coming in this way if you have an opportunity. Yes, from the airport through the tunnel must be neat and all, but the contrast of the utter forest to this industrial dreamland is pretty nuts. There are bridges everywhere! There are 3 rivers! Wow! And we stayed in a very very deluxe hotel in Shadyside, just north of the school I visited, Carnegie Melon. We walked the two blocks to campus and immediately, though it is by a long shot not the prettiest or the stateliest or the cleanest or anything-est campus, I thought it felt right. There is an openness to the campus, this wide expanse of grass that seems to push the yellow-toned buildings back. The view from campus at (ironically) the UPitt Cathedral of Learning (which I assume is the immense and sculptural tower visible from the whole city) as well as the rest of Pgh. is really memorable. I had no idea that Pgh. was that hilly! It's crazy hilly! It's hilly as it gets! Pictures do it no dimensional justice. CMU is about the only flat place in Pgh., mainly because the major ravines on campus have been filled. It's this flat and grassy platform atop a hill in an exceptionally nice area of the city. Despite certain concerns I have about the flexibility of schedules (as I want to major in Econ, minor in Classics--which the school does not offer but UPitt does, and at the very least be involved in theatre--but the school has an isolated conservatory that doesn't at all seem accessible to non-majors), I felt I could see myself there.</p>

<p>Pittsburgh itself is a very cool city. As in all the midwest (and I count western Pennsylvania as part of the midwest) the people are really, really friendly. They don't have obtrusive accents as I expected them to have (mainly from seeing Philly cheese steak pizza commercials on TV, I guess), and overall seem very chill. And though Pgh. had by far the most miserable summer weather I have ever experienced and ever will experience (save for in the Equator when I'm old and cruise-bound) it was not an uncomfortable city. And as I didn't really care at all for CMU before visiting, I'm having to reevaluate what I'm looking for.</p>

<p>Basically, this trip has overwhelmed me and turned upside-down my expectations and assumptions. The two schools I was most sold on coming in to the trip (Kenyon and Chicago) didn't make me slap my forehead and think, "This is so me." Oberlin went from being a secondary whatever stop to an actual school I should consider, and it also is making me check out more of the larger LACs. And despite its tech focus (although for a while I did want to be an engineer) and everything, CMU really stands out to me as a cool place, as the type of school I could find myself at in 2 years.</p>

<p>Oh, yeah, and I'm only going to be a junior.</p>

<p>Craaaaap.</p>

<p>"Oh my God! Northwestern is beautiful!"</p>

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<li>Just wait until the sun takes its leave from the area and the trees lose their leaves and pretty much everything else beautiful dies or is frozen over...... :rolleyes:</li>
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<p>Nice report! You should put in under "visits".</p>

<p>Just for the record, people who live in western PA DO NOT consider it to be part of the midwest. ;)</p>

<p>Really? It seems to have so much more in common with that area than, from my equally limited experience, the east. Craziness.</p>

<p>Very nice report -- thanks for posting it.</p>

<p>I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, and shennie is absolutely right, we do not consider ourselves a part of the Midwest. The Pennsylvania-Ohio border is the start of the midwest, because Midwest = flat. Pittsburgh is better known as the "Capital of Appalachia", and the culture has much more in common with people in West Virginia and Maryland. </p>

<p>I lived five blocks from the CMU campus in Squirrel Hill. It really is a fun area. CMU is literally feet away from Oakland, which is Pittsburgh's college town/neighborhood for sure. Not to mention you will be very close to the Carnegie Theatre, the Carnegie Museum of Natural History, and the Carnegie Museum of Art....OH wait, the Carnegie Library. And don't forget the National Aviary and the Phipps Conservatory, or the rest of Schenley Park for that matter. They have ice skating. As for the rest of the city, there is no good way to get downtown except for the PAT bus, but there is not all that much in downtown anyway. Squirrel Hill is close, just make your way up Forbes Avenue to the business district, but Shadyside, where you lodged, is a bit farther. However there are some great stores there, and an Apple store if you are an Apple fanatic. </p>

<p>Great account of your college tour! I did not know Oberlin had all of those environmental initiatives. Good luck with the college search.</p>

<p>Yeah, Oberlin is AMAZINGLY environmentally cool. Was pretty surprised by that.</p>

<p>I was really totally impressed in the student initiative there too: one student wrote a grant request to the College to buy 2 school-owned Prius cars for town residents to share. Now 60 residents are signed up to use the car once or twice a week to run errands for which they cannot walk. This has allowed families in town to save money by not buying a car, and also is environmentally great because they would have purchased cheaper, less fuel-efficient models.</p>

<p>that kind of initiative blew me away.</p>

<p>I like how everything in Pittsburgh is either Carnegie or Heinz.</p>

<p>Evanston overall is not quite as swank as near the lakefront. Lots of solid middle-class areas away from the lake and even a mini ghetto. There are a number of good student priced restaurants, coffeehouses etc you might not see on one quick trip.</p>

<p>I guess it was my bad... I took a (great) jog all over campus, and around the 4 or 5 east-most blocks of the town, from the end of the main part of the beach and in, past the train tracks a block or two, and up to Davis which looked like fun with great shopping...</p>

<p>Love the phrase mini-ghetto and am totally going to employ that from now on.</p>

<p>"I should mention that Ohio is on Eastern Time Zone. What?!"</p>

<p>Hollyert, unless the time-zone lines have been redrawn, South Bend, Indiana (home of Notre Dame) and even parts of Indiana to the west of South Bend, are also Eastern Time Zone. Believe it or not. However, it is so far at the western edge of "the East" (ahem) that they do not participate in Daylight Savings.</p>

<p>Pittsburgh is a fantastic city.</p>

<p>It's so..non-pretentious. Refreshing.</p>

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the beauty of the buildings, the quads, the surrounding (expensive-looking) town, and obviously the lakefront park that ends in a trailing beach

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Just wait until the sun takes its leave from the area and the trees lose their leaves and pretty much everything else beautiful dies or is frozen over

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KK, I don't think any of the things mentioned above, mostly landmarks, would freeze over... or die. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a body of water as large as Lake Michigan wouldn't freeze over like a pond would it?</p>

<p>Maybe it does though. I've no clue what midwestern winters are like.</p>

<p>The best part about this thread is that I currently live in the Chicago area, and yes, Lake Michigan does freeze over, but only near the coastline. It looks like Antarctica in winter because it snows on top of the ice. Its really cool, you should come to see it. It usually happens after our 1st or 2nd big snowstorm of the winter, and NU's Evanston campus, being right on the Lake, gets mighty cold, with a healthy wind-chill. </p>

<p>Fun fact! About 450 miles northwest in Duluth, MN, temperatures on Lake Superior reached -54 degrees Fahrenheit in winter 2007. That ice was frozen solid. Welcome to the Great Lakes!</p>

<p>^ wow so the Great Lakes actually do freeze?</p>

<p>If memory serves me right, not even Crater Lake in Oregon freezes in the winter despite the high altitude and cold temperature on the mountains, so it really is pretty surprising for me to hear that a lake as large as Lake Michigan actually develops layers of ice. I must have underestimated the winters of the Midwest.</p>

<p>"KK, I don't think any of the things mentioned above, mostly landmarks, would freeze over... or die. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a body of water as large as Lake Michigan wouldn't freeze over like a pond would it?"</p>

<p>Well... I was of course talking about the things that CAN die and freeze over, including the lake front, lol. The trees and flowers and such that make the campus beautiful during this time of year pretty much ALL disappear and the campus looks pretty sad. In fact, the school tries to limit the number of tours it gives during Winter for this very reason! </p>

<p>I promise you, the Sun leaves Evanston in like October and doesn't return until may. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>That and NU has that mini-lake fountain thing that looks somewhat shallow, at least compared to L. Michigan, and it must be nice and solid come winter.</p>

<p>After getting to know college kids from all over the U.S., I have to say that some of the finest, most inspirational students I have ever dealt with were from Oberlin--they give me a lot of hope for the future! Not only are they extremely smart, they seem to band together and enjoy the learning experience--no cut-throat competition like you see in so many of the other colleges that enroll high-achieving students. Recently a woman I know said in a rather snide voice "Did you know that Oberlin is considered to be the most liberal school in the country--who would want to send a child there?"--(all of her kids attend BYU)--and I replied "Yes, it is very liberal--they were the first school in the country to actually allow African Americans and Females to attend classes--I would be thrilled and proud to have a child go there!" Anyway, all of the schools you mentioned have their own special qualities, so good luck with your journey. You might also want to consider The College of Wooster--it is another very highly regarded school in that same vicinity.</p>

<p>You know... we drove right by Wooster, at least the state road leading to it had a sign...</p>

<p>was that dumb of me? I had kindof marked it as a destination on the trip, but we really only did have a week and that was just another day to spend a campus about which I knew very little.</p>

<p>But about Oberlin, that's kind of what I wanted to hear, hehehe. I'm liking more of it the more I read about it. (For example, I know which dorm/co-op I would like to spend my time in already... thank you internet!!!)</p>

<p>And yeah the whole competition thing seems totally unnecessary, even at the big schools. What's the point or cutthroat behavior? Is it making others miserable through sabotage, or making yourself miserable because you will never be satisfied? Although sadomasochism is for some... you get the idea.</p>