<p>FSU is 11-2 and ACC Champs this year, looking for a major BCS bowl game. Not bad. </p>
<p>Plus, FSU is 3rd nationally in the Director’s Cup in the Division 1 Fall Standings (UF is 28th).
See: <a href=“LEARFIELD Directors' Cup - National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics”>LEARFIELD Directors' Cup - National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics;
<p>You really cant hate on UF’s superiority in the competitive majors.</p>
<p>Likewise you can’t hate on Florida State for its superiority in the competitive majors.</p>
<p>^No they cannot, however the majors at FSU that could be touted as “competitive or superior” are more often than not the arts, and to a degree the poli sci area. </p>
<p>Overall and almost across the board (note the ALMOST before your panties become inflated with claims of FSU neuro-dept being superior), UF is stronger. This includes Engineering, Chemisty, Biology, and Physics. Congratulations on having a great circus though, we all can’t be physicians! As always, Go Gata.</p>
<p>I think you need to do more research. Florida State has the only National Laboratory in Florida related to chemistry and especially physics. Biology is a toss up, like math. Stats? FSU. Computer criminology? FSU.</p>
<p>Absolutely in Political Science, Criminology and yes, the various arts. I’ll say psychology as well, as FSU has the oldest psy program in Florida. Business? Toss up. Law? Toss up. Medicine? Tough one. FSU has a new distributed medical school model while UF has a single-site school. FSU Med doesn’t emphasize as much med
research to date, but builds a hell of a good doc.</p>
<p>Go Noles!!!</p>
<p>That is a pity.</p>
<p>UF has a single site based medical center? Not only completely false (Shands in Jacksonville being the first to come to mind), but also indicative of the fact medicine is more deeply rooted at UF comparatively speaking. </p>
<p>As for the chemistry and physics “laboratory”. Absolutely laughable, there is no U.S. Department of chemistry to devote a lab to. FSU has one one large magnet facility. That’s it.</p>
<p>As for the law/business nothing more needs to be said. Look to alumni earnings and rankings for an answer. 9/10 will show UF on top. Must be a coincidence.</p>
<p>UF Med is a traditional single-site training facility when compared with the multi-site concept of FSU Med.</p>
<p>UF Med started in/around 1948. FSU Med started in 2000. More entrenched? So what? More like more sclerotic. At least one of the best UF Med docs left for positions at FSU Med when UF Med endured the medical acceptance scandal, when a UF med student bypassed the MCAT exam for entry. Welcome to FSU Med. </p>
<p>As to Business, FSU’s CoB produced the so-called replacement for Warren Buffett. (Psst…this is very notable for any Business school)</p>
<p>Additionally, Florida State has the largest investment of NSF monies in Florida. The Mag Lab is the only facility like it in the world. [The</a> Mag Lab has set 14 world records to date.](<a href=“http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/mediacenter/factsheets/records.html]The”>http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/mediacenter/factsheets/records.html) FSU won the Mag Lab away from MIT.</p>
<p>Historically, FSU also had the first Rhodes Scholar in Florida in 1905. The first chapter of Phi Beta Kappa in Florida in 1935. The first female Rhodes Scholar winner in 1977…</p>
<p>The National High Magnetic Field Laboratory offers the highest magnetic fields for use by our international community of scientific visitors. But we could just as easily be called the National Unique Magnetic Field Laboratory, because many of our magnets and experimental techniques are highly specialized, yet broadly applicable to research in physics, materials science, chemistry, biochemistry, biology and even biomedicine.</p>
<p>It is housed at FSU. MIT lost it. It is also used by UF and Los Almos.
FSU Physics trumps UF.
Not an opinion, this is factual.
Please feel free to look into this yourself.</p>
<p>Thanks for the analysis. You make my case for the highly nuanced nature of large universities, which shows sweeping claims of university superiority are nonsense. Not to mention the fact that even careful analysis of course syllibi is at best superficial, in that close relations with faculty can greatly enrich an education with unpublished opportunities. Honors programs and Honors-in-the-Major work can also improve undergraduate course quality. </p>
<p>As for undergrads using the Mag Lab, undergrads at Florida State most certainly do have access to the Lab. My D1 did her undergrad biochem experiments at the Lab. Not unusual at all.</p>
<p>I think one of the best claims to undergraduate academic fame come from earning and maintaining a chapter of Phi Beta Kappa. FSU earned the first chapter in Florida in 1935. UF earned the second chapter in 1938. Only the top 10% of U.S. universities qualify for a chapter of PBK. USF, another Florida state university for example, has tried seven times to date for a chapter and has been unsuccessful.</p>
<p>We should also recognize that the [best</a> physics dissertation in the U.S. in 2010 came from FSU](<a href=“http://www.news.fsu.edu/More-FSU-News/News-Archive/2010/February/Former-student-has-nation-s-top-dissertation-in-nuclear-physics]best”>http://www.news.fsu.edu/More-FSU-News/News-Archive/2010/February/Former-student-has-nation-s-top-dissertation-in-nuclear-physics). This student started out at FSU as a freshman in physics.</p>
<p>Most law school rankings have FSU Law ranked evenly with UF. In fact, FSU has a higher placement rate for law school grads (in careers where a law degree is traditionally required). That’s impressive considering that UF Law is older and therefore has a more established alumni network. </p>
<p>To be fair, FSU Law has the significant advantage of being located in a state capital.</p>
<p>Theoretically, a consortium of universities operated the (Francis Bitter) Mag Lab at MIT and also at Florida State. But the history is clear it was between FSU and MIT.</p>
<p>See, for example:</p>
<p>[The</a> (MIT) Tech (1990) - FSU gets national magnet lab](<a href=“http://tech.mit.edu/V110/N31/magnet.31n.html][B]The”>http://tech.mit.edu/V110/N31/magnet.31n.html)</p>
<p>[The</a> Harvard Crimson (1990) - Magnet Lab Puts Florida State U. on Map](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1990/9/17/magnet-lab-puts-florida-state-u/][B]The”>Magnet Lab Puts Florida State U. on Map | News | The Harvard Crimson)</p>
<p>[Physics</a> Today (1991) - Coming Attraction: NSF Rejects MIT, Picks Florida State for Magnet Lab](<a href=“http://www.physicstoday.org/resource/1/phtoad/v44/i1/p53_s1?isAuthorized=no][B]Physics”>http://www.physicstoday.org/resource/1/phtoad/v44/i1/p53_s1?isAuthorized=no)</p>
<p>TO GATORPHYSICS—
You appear to have an excellent understanding of the undergraduate Physics / Mathematical
Program at UF and I’D appreciate an answer, if you would please—
Currently a freshman at FSU and interested in graduate school at either FSU / UF –
First term I took Calculus 2, MAC 2312 & Physics 2, PHY2049, all A’s all courses
For spring term, I’m taking Calculus 3, MAC 2313, Ordinary Equations, MAP 2302 and
Intermediate Modern Physics, PHY 3101-
Am I on track for grad school?
Any suggestions
Thanks</p>
<p>FSU’s Jack Crow was the driving force behind the lab. Without Jack Crow, Florida would not have the Mag Lab.</p>
<p>
Source: [Jack</a> Crow, who landed FSU’s major magnet laboratory, dies
By Associated Press
Published September 4, 2004](<a href=“http://www.sptimes.com/2004/09/04/State/Jack_Crow__who_landed.shtml][B]Jack”>http://www.sptimes.com/2004/09/04/State/Jack_Crow__who_landed.shtml)</p>
<p>This is getting silly. Crow was the guy. </p>
<p>At least three people in the above article attested to Crow’s position vis a vis the Mag Lab acquisition:</p>
<p>the AP reporter who wrote the article;
the provost of FSU who was known for giving little faint praise;
the new director of the Mag Lab.</p>
<p>Regardless of this article being a bit of a memorial for Crow, when people tend to say nice things, you now have a series of wide and varied articles showing FSU and Crow, in the main, won the lab. UF is mentioned as an “oh, yes - also…” Academia is tough; no one gets praised for winning a national laboratory unless its real. The competition is too tough for these enormous awards. </p>
<p>But by all means produce a similar article(s) attesting to a similar essential contribution of the UF faculty member.</p>
<p>I was in the Part Time MBA at FSU. I am currently transferring to UF MBA. FSU MBA is not very good that is why I decided to change of school.</p>
<p>@Thaishw</p>
<p>This is an old thread, please don’t “bump” it! ^#(^ </p>
<p>In the future, just start a new thread. :)</p>
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<p>I can tell UF will be a better fit for you. </p>
<p>Too bad you can’t transfer MBA credits from one university to another. Nice try, thanks for playing.</p>