<p>^err I meant not UNinhabitable.</p>
<p>Longhaul, when you went to visit Trinity, you disliked the fact that there was so much construction. Those who visit now will marvel at the new buildings for the sciences, new Leeds certified, as are the new /refurbished dorms. The construction is nearly finished.</p>
<p>No one is talking about Wofford. Some friends of ours had a son who went there and played soccer - he loved it there - it seems a very sports oriented school for such a small school. We had a very nice visit to Wofford over junior year spring break (2011). The campus was beautiful and people were friendly. My 33 ACT son did the Wofford Scholar paperwork and I recall that he got a fairly nice merit scholarship, although the by time it came, he had already decided to go for a large school with an engineering program.</p>
<p>I recall that it seemed like an academically challenging school especially for a school that is not hard to be admitted to. Our tour guide and others talked about having to study a lot.</p>
<p>TK, my concern is, how is determined need … determined? I think he has lost interest in Colorado college. Too awkward with the block system, altho he can appreciate that option. I just presume we will not match for need based aid. We live in an expensive area for the great schools (in the “cheap seats” of the area, I might add), but don’t think they would care or factor in med school costs to our budget. And there are other schools higher on the list that will do merit aid. Too, I’ll read about Earlham, they are at our college night in a few days, so we will investigate it. Thx!!!</p>
<p>Scmom, w and l has always been an interest. Must confess, other than loving the area, I know very little about the school. Do know a few kids who attended, one in med school today. We will see them this week. Furman and woffard are right up there too.</p>
<p>TK, know nothing about st Mary’s but love the sound of it!!</p>
<p>2red, yep, been there, me…one semester and bolted. Agreed. Waco is bad. Nice people there tho!</p>
<p>MWMom, he will meet with them at college night too. Don’t know much but I continue to hear good things. </p>
<p>Thx all!</p>
<p>TK – I agree with nettie, concerns at Colorado are how they determine need. And I am certainly not dissing CC. My kid found too much of the school to meet his “want” list of attributes. He would have applied no matter what. Just IMO, if you need to whittle down a list, I would not recommend on counting on anything financially from CC since they are a moving target. We have not heard of unhappy kids. We have heard of kids who could not fully enjoy the social life between blocks due to finances, but even those kids overall did not convey that they were unhappy are feeling like the neglected red headed step child. </p>
<p>Gloworm – I do have an aversion to construction, but even without it Trinity was not the most beautiful school I have seen. But they certainly were the friendliest! And I compared ever library to Trinity since I loved the mural. The facilities were impressive. Even the radio station equipment was great!
And beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I spend a decent amount of time on Princeton’s campus and my home area has many schools that have the tree lined drive look. Skews my idea of gorgeous campus. I am still holding out that one of my kids will attend Trinity.</p>
<p>GWU — report from the freshmen I know there – “love the number of cool places to work” - in reference to the internships freshmen can get with big named agencies; “taking classes on both campus is time consuming” This was in reference to the 2 parts of GW; “some dorms are really disgusting, yet we are on the best dorm list” Um, so far I can’t get much from them on the actual academics…Maybe by T’Giving when they have settled in more.</p>
<p>St Mary’s MD – couldn’t get DS to visit and then for financial reasons it dropped off after he got some early admits. This is a school I think is a real gem for MD residents. </p>
<p>Earlham – my niece was offered a wonderful scholarship. She really like the people. Came down to the wire decision and she turned it down for a larger school in DC due to her very specific major. </p>
<p>Nettie - My advice is to try and keep the list at 8-10. DS applied to 12 and got burnt out and didn’t apply to outside scholarships. By the time calls came in for the competitive scholarship interviews in spring, he was mentally checked out. Meanwhile, his GF applied to 2 schools and racked up on outside scholarships.</p>
<p>Baylor, Trinity TX, and Wofford are FAFSA-only schools. The others in the thread title (along with most other selective, private schools) use both the FAFSA and the CSS/Profile forms. None of them are among the 26 colleges that use the “consensus” methodology. The various forms & methodologies use similar information (family income, assets, family size, number of children in college, etc) to determine the EFC. You can estimate your EFC yourself by using an online Net Price Calculator for each of these schools.</p>
<p>I ran a few searches on the IPEDS database to determine average net cost to attend these schools, given various family income levels. ([IPEDS</a> Data Center](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/datacenter/Default.aspx]IPEDS”>Use the Data))</p>
<p>The tables below show average net prices for students receiving Title IV Federal financial aid (federal grants or federal student loans) in 2010-11. Both tables contain the same information. The first table is sorted to rank net price for the lowest income families. The second table is sorted to rank net price for the highest income families receiving aid.</p>
<p>These tables show average net prices for family incomes of:
- $0-$30000
- $30001-$48000
- $48001-$75000<br>
- $75001-$110000
- over $110000 </p>
<p>Bottom line:
Richmond and Colorado College are cheapest for very low income families; Baylor and Tulane are most expensive.
Wofford and Rhodes are cheapest for families in the highest income category (> $110K);
Tulane and Colorado College are most expensive.</p>
<p>(Your Mileage May Vary!)</p>
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<p>**Sorted on income range 1 (lowest prices for lowest income)**
School ...................1.......2.......3.......4.......5
University of Richmond $7,150 $7,654 $12,457 $19,765 $35,160
Colorado College $10,195 $10,286 $16,736 $24,118 $37,226
Earlham College... $12,992 $14,333 $20,216 $23,532 $28,777
Washington and Lee $14,109 $17,778 $22,925 $22,023 $35,116
Trinity University... $14,318 $14,824 $17,999 $23,490 $28,954
George Washington $14,670 $13,879 $17,142 $26,141 $35,236
Rhodes College ... $15,512 $16,649 $20,408 $23,529 $28,352
Wofford College ... $17,010 $13,619 $18,514 $19,611 $26,947
Furman University $17,175 $12,968 $17,065 $21,680 $31,646
Baylor University ......$20,227 $20,501 $24,246 $27,021 $31,136
Tulane .............. $20,345 $20,493 $25,618 $28,219 $35,622</p>
<p>**Sorted on income range 5 (lowest prices for highest income)**
School ...................1.......2.......3.......4.......5
Wofford College ... $17,010 $13,619 $18,514 $19,611 $26,947
Rhodes College ... $15,512 $16,649 $20,408 $23,529 $28,352
Earlham College... $12,992 $14,333 $20,216 $23,532 $28,777
Trinity University... $14,318 $14,824 $17,999 $23,490 $28,954
Baylor University ......$20,227 $20,501 $24,246 $27,021 $31,136
Furman University $17,175 $12,968 $17,065 $21,680 $31,646
Washington and Lee $14,109 $17,778 $22,925 $22,023 $35,116
University of Richmond $7,150 $7,654 $12,457 $19,765 $35,160
George Washington $14,670 $13,879 $17,142 $26,141 $35,236
Tulane .............. $20,345 $20,493 $25,618 $28,219 $35,622
Colorado College $10,195 $10,286 $16,736 $24,118 $37,226</p>
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<p>A better way to express this:
Richmond and Colorado College are cheapest (on average) for incomes up to $75K (range 1-3). Baylor and Tulane are most expensive for incomes up to $110K (range 1-4).</p>