*gasp* still making up my mind (Stanford or Princeton)

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-Friendly laid-back summer camp atmosphere vs I'm not going to try to describe Princeton's atmosphere, but it's different imo.

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Okay, I lived on S's campus for a month during the summer, where I had the chance to talk to S students...and they said that while in the beginning it's basically Camp Stanford, people buckle down and the whole "summer camp" thing goes away. It's still amazing, but it's not camp by any means. I'd like to know what you think of the atmosphere at P.</p>

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- I like the dorm unity and feel as well as dining hall, library, buildings, campus better at Stanford

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Yes...and you have an entire residential college with which to ally yourself. I guess it just comes down to personal preferences for residential life. I personally think Stanford's is too fragmented, whereas Princeton's is much more cohesive for the entire student body. I could go on and on about why I strongly dislike Stanford's theme and ethnic housing, but there's no point if that's what you like. Again, just me.</p>

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- I want to do IR, which is obviously more prestigious at Princeton, but apparently was invented as a major in Stanford!?

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You have a lot of opportunities to do a lot of things with IR/IA at Princeton. Not only do you have IR within the politics department, not only do you have IA in the very prestigious WWS, but you also have the Princeton Institute for International and Regional Studies, which brings together scholars from around campus and around the world for an ongoing dialogue and research of IR/IA issues our world faces.</p>

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- I'm more of a liberal vegetarian than popped collar preppie

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I'm certainly not the latter...and I'm going to Princeton, as are many others in the class who aren't "popped collar preppies." It's time for the public to dispell the whole "homogeneous Princeton" stereotype. Our class is one of the most diverse (if not the most) in the history of the university. That in itself should say something.</p>

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- I don't want to hurt my chances for success in an east coast life.

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Good. Come to Princeton :p Actually, a Stanford degree will take you very far as well, but having the East Coast experience and the access to the multitude of resources available over here (especially since you want to end up there) will, in my opinion, boost your chances of finding an excellent job post-grad or even provide great resources for grad school studies.</p>

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- I feel that it comes down to me liking Stanford environment and Princeton academics, although I also feel like this is a gross simplification since Stanford has great academics and Princeton has a great environment, so I am scared to even say this thought out loud.

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You're right. They both have it all. But it comes down to which lifestle you prefer more. The West Coast is different from the East Coast, though you say location really doesn't matter to you. You'd be surprised how much weather impacts the overall disposition of students. Princeton students now are raving over the beautiful reintroduction of life into their world because of the shift from winter to spring. Seasons are great, and I for one can't wait to experience them (finally) after eighteen years of basically having summer and (a poor excuse of) winter.</p>

<p>You're right, the decision is coming up soon. I honestly hope you end up choosing Princeton, but you've just got to either look deep inside and say, "Stop kidding yourself, dude. You know you'd be best off going to [insert school name]." Or perhaps wait for that grand epiphany that comes at the most random of times. Either way, best of luck! :)</p>

<p>hey guys, I thought I was the only dude with last minute decisions, like two nights ago I had decided Princeton, but man I read about Stanford engineering. I really want to know, if I go to Princeton for engineering, what are my chances of entering a top grad school in engineering. I love Princeton I really do, I also prefer the east cost, but how about my professional goals, is Princeton getting me far in engineering?</p>

<p>I wish God could come down to earth to tell me where I would be happier, but I think he initially invented freedom. Sometimes options can be a burden</p>

<p>Frodo: Stanford engineering is pretty damn good if that's what you're into... but I think you would still be happy at Princeton.</p>

<p>I wish I had already decided, I am just scared that going to Princeton as an engineer will give me less chances for entering to a top grad school than Stanford</p>

<p>Hey look, there's someone else trying to decide between Princeton and Stanford:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/04/26/college.choice.ap/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/04/26/college.choice.ap/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Princeton is not overly competitive. You'll always find tons of people to work with problem sets on. And don't worry, Princeton engineering will get you to the same places as Stanford engineering will. In the case of Princeton engineering, rankings don't quite do it justice namely because the school is pouring money into the school in order to make it top 5 in every engineering disipline.</p>

<p>more stanford v. princeton stuff at cnn.com/education...</p>

<p>Thanks for the response, philntex. i also am not a fan of theme/ethnic housing, what i was referring to was how close everyone in the all-freshman dorm i stayed at was with each other and with their RAs...maybe its just layout; all the dorm rooms were in a row on both floors, doors open, and people just happily popped in and out. Conversely, at Princeton, most people seemed friendly with others in the dorm, but they seemed more isolated in their own suite-style rooms...ok too much about dorms, i'm sure they're all different. As to the summer camp thing, i just visited a few days ago, in the midst of midterm stress, but it still seemed happy and camp-like because people were so balanced; sure they worked a lot of the time, but they also took breaks to hang out, see a game, go to a concert, etc. And yeah, i'm sorry for pulling the preppy card on you, I know the vast majority of Princeton students aren't really like that, but when I visited, I gotta admit that a few of them were, whereas i didn't see any at stanford. And Stanford is more diverse, I saw less self-segregation among ethnic groups, and there def. is more food for the veggie-head that i am (yes, i do know about the veggie co-op at p-ton...but i shiver at the thought of work...jk). Anyhow, I'm not trying to just defend Stanford; it's still dead-even for me, and thanks for the good wishes on the epiphany! I'm working on it! I'm also randomly emailing everyone i know at stanford and princeton for last minute advice...yes i know, i'm obsessive and crazy. And I definitely agree with you on the weather. Sun makes me happy, at least. Haha ironically, the minute I stepped on campus I went to this lecture on the environment where this guy was talking about how people are proven to live longer in warmer climates, even with smog. He was defending global warming actually....but i ignored that part, lol...
Anyhow, I think Stanford '09 and Princeton '09 both have a nice ring to them....either way, :)</p>

<p>edit: I just read that cnn article. I love how that guy has a sort-of opposite viewpoint of Stanford and P-ton...Stanford weather certainly isn't same-old, same-old to me!</p>

<p>hey who's going to admit wkend?</p>

<p>Alright guys, just fyi, I decided on Stanford</p>

<p>sorry, all you princetonians...you'll always be special in my eyes :D</p>

<p>I bet this guy was wearing a Stanford sweater while he nudged us along pretending to be undecided</p>

<p>Why would he do that :confused:</p>

<p>To get us poor Tigers to jump through hoops? ;)</p>

<p>jump through hoops...</p>

<p>good one!!!:)</p>

<p>huh? are you kidding?</p>

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wearing a Stanford sweater while he nudged us along pretending to be undecided

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<p>that's odd indeed....</p>