<p>Published statistics indicate that W & M admits a greater percentage of male than female applicants. I am interested in speaking with anyone who has information on this topic. In particular, I am interested in speaking with women who applied and were denied admission within the past couple years. Feel free to contact me via the private message feature if you prefer.</p>
<p>are you bringing a lawsuit against WM?</p>
<p>wow i realy hope not</p>
<p>You can't be serious. I am doubtful that there is a single school in the country that achieves perfect parity between the number of students of each gender.</p>
<p>...nor should they. the spot should go to the most qualified person applying, and a person's chances should not be augmented or diminished by his or her gender. If ten thousand very-qualified women apply and no well-qualified men do, take all women.</p>
<p>Discrimination is a part of admissions at every competative college in America. Welcome to the process, and deal with it. Descriminating by gender is basically no different than descriminating based on inteligence or athletic ability, so stop your bi***ing OP.</p>
<p>This is from the 2006 cycle according to US News:</p>
<p>Male applicants: 3812
Male acceptances: 1671
Males enrolled: 652</p>
<p>Female applicants: 6910
Female acceptances: 1797
Females enrolled: 697</p>
<p>They actually admit more women than men numerically. With that kind of imbalance in the applicant pool coupled with the tendency of women to outperform men in HS, if they admitted their class with no consideration of gender, they'd be 75% women. This sort of imbalance is typical at LACs; W&M is only unusual because it's a public.</p>
<p>Actually, fewer men between the ages of 18-23 are opting to go to college. Many are getting their IT certification while in high school and going right into the workforce.</p>
<p>Perhaps the reason for the disparity in admission rates by gender at W&M is that not enough men are applying. </p>
<p>36% of the applicants at M&W are men. Compare to
42% at UVA
58% at VaTech</p>
<p>In raw numbers, it looks even worse:
3,872 W&M
7,218 UVA
11,036 VaTech</p>
<p>One thing every college does is select a student that would "fit" into the school. The school may not be biased against women, but actually want to have balanced numbers for an overall feel. If you go back many, many moons ago, there were colleges that were all girls or all boys for the first few years they took more of one sex to create a balance between the two sexes.</p>
<p>What goes around comes around. Now that admissions are favoring a minority (males), the *****ing has begun.</p>
<p>One reason W&M has fewer male applicants than UVA and Tech is the lack of big time football, and the fact that the basketball team is awful. IMO only!</p>
<p>I agree with namtrag why fewer males applying.</p>
<p>W&M is more of a "work" college, whereas the others have more of a "fun" atmosphere...Don't hate me and start saying oh no you are wrong. I just know that the kids that are applying for the others want the large college atmosphere, get lost in the numbers and going to games on Sat. are important, typically a guys view. Not many girls care anything about the games and are more interested in the degree. No insult to anyone. My s cared more about the whole pic, my d cares about where the school is located and the degrees offered. Neither had overlapping schools that they placed on their top lists.</p>
<p>My cousin went there and is a die hard fan of W&M, his fiance is too. People who go there love it, don't let the thought there is a bias stop you from applying</p>
<p>My older S didn't even consider W&M, he wanted football, and he heard lots of rumors about the girls not being too attractive, and that W&M was really hard, a nerd school. He ended up at UVA.</p>
<p>My younger S is at W&M as a freshman, and loves it! He is not as superficial as my older S, doesn't really like sports that much, and is not so concerned with how the girls look...lol!</p>
<p>Steverino: Sour grapes about being rejected by William and Mary? Oh for crying out loud, with nearly 11K applicants, they had plenty of qualified students to chose from. It's close to 50/50 now. Look at JMU. </p>
<p>Quityourtroublemakingand*****ing. Go to UVA.</p>
<p>Peace out.</p>
<p>There probably is gender discrimination at W&M by looking at the statistics, and it's rather unfortunate. When a significantly larger portion of one sex apply, but the acceptances come out to be 50/50, it is clear that such a thing is occurring. Such a thing is not necessarily uncommon nowadays, especially at the better colleges.</p>
<p>Take MIT for example: 10% of male applicants are accepted, while 30% of female applicants are accepted; for every 1 admitted male student, there is 1 admitted female student. Although MIT admins/students alike claim that the females are just as smart as the males, it's quite clear (from talking to many MIT students), that the males tend to be significantly smarter than the females.</p>
<p>To the OP: Move along. Whenever a school starts doing this, the school slowly starts to decline. If you compare MIT with Caltech nowadays, it's obvious that you'll get a much better education at Caltech than at MIT, although they were about equally great institutions at the time before Marilee Jones came along. Go to another institution that isn't declining.</p>
<p>There was an exchange about this in the Chronicle of Higher Education over the summer. Here's an excerpt, a letter from the Dean of Admissions at W&M.</p>
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No Admissions Discrimination Against Women</p>
<p>SECTION: LETTERS TO THE EDITOR; Pg. 13 Vol. 53 No. 48</p>
<p>To the Editor:</p>
<p>I read with interest Richard Whitmire's opinion piece about the differences in college-admissions rates for men and women, but I take umbrage at his decision to label that phenomenon as discrimination on the basis of one statistic alone ("The Latest Way to Discriminate Against Women," The Chronicle Review, July 20). </p>
<p>As the official who is responsible for ensuring the integrity of our admissions committee's decisions, I can say unequivocally that discrimination against women has no place whatsoever within that process . . . </p>
<p>The only demographic criterion to which the college is beholden is the 65:35 ratio of in-state to out-of-state students, per its agreement with the Commonwealth of Virginia. In fact, that requirement contributes to the differences in admissions rates for men and women, as women comprise a larger proportion of the out-of-state cohort, which we admit at a much lower rate over all, than they do of the in-state applicants.</p>
<p>The self-selectivity of male applicants to the college plays a larger role. Among men admitted to William and Mary this year, the mid-50th percentile range on their combined SAT scores for math and critical reading was between 1320 and 1470, nominally higher than the same range for admitted women, which was between 1300 and 1460. Neither I nor any other member of the admissions committee believe that SAT scores are the only or best measure of academic strength. In this case, however, as a basis for comparing large groups of students for whom we have standardized data, the comparison aptly demonstrates that admitted men on average were not less qualified than admitted women.</p>
<p>For an illustration of self-selectivity at another institution, consider the fact that in the U.S. News & World Report data cited by Mr. Whitmire, in 2006 the Massachusetts Institute of Technology had an admit rate of 10 percent for men and 22 percent for women. ... Should the public believe that MIT's admissions office holds its female applicants to standards that are less than half as stringent as those employed for men? Of course not. Women who apply to MIT are a highly self-selected and academically capable group, despite being underrepresented within that particular applicant pool.</p>
<p>Similarly, the difference in admit rates for men and women at William and Mary says far more about the composition of our pool (more female applicants) than it does about the academic credentials of admitted students or the way we make our decisions. . . . </p>
<p>I still look forward to Mr. Whitmire's forthcoming book about the achievement gap between boys and girls at the secondary-school level -- a subject I agree warrants careful attention -- and I hope he contributes more than single-statistic sensationalism to his examination of that equally complex issue.</p>
<p>Henry R. Broaddus
Dean of Admission
College of William and Mary
Williamsburg, Va.
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<p>There is simply no way Steverino to make a case for your flat out rejection from William and Mary. Just because more females apply does not mean that they are all qualified applicants. Colleges defend this because they are trying to build a community, not just accept the applicants with the highest scores. I would argue that there are a lot of "text book" applicants both male and female who are not admitted as perhaps they don't stand out. Whatever. You fighting a losing battle here and you should apply to JMU and see what 70/30 looks like. You sound like an angry feminist. </p>
<p>Peace out and leave the Tribe alone. You just didn't pass muster.</p>
<p>And another thing Steverino................you are trying to imply that qualified females are rejected in favor of unqualified males. Get a grip! When you have a school with an acceptance rate in the 30th percentile, tell me how in the heck do you handle that? You are not thinking straight and that is why you were rejected from William and Mary. Your intellectual apptitude just isn't there. </p>
<p>Trouble maker. Leave the Tribe alone. Go to JMU.</p>
<p>pedsox, enough with the personal attacks. Your rant is misguided.</p>
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Should the public believe that MIT's admissions office holds its female applicants to standards that are less....stringent as those employed for men?
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<p>As Homer would say: Doh!</p>