<p>Stats: 2110 SAT
660 Physics
650 USH
640 Math IIC</p>
<p>October: Retake SAT in October (third time is the charm)
November: Retake SAT II Phys,USH,Math IIC (Hopefully all 750+...didn't study much first time)
December: Retake SAT II Lit, World, Bio (Hopefully all 750+)</p>
<p>By taking 6 more SAT II's, I will cancel my old crappy scores because only the last 6 SAT II's are sent. Am I a genius or what?</p>
<p>No college requires more than 3.</p>
<p>Theres really no point in taking all those SAT IIs, gives u less time to retake the real SAT if you need to. Unless you want to major in history, another USH or World seems useless. Math IIC and Lit is usually what collegs like to see. And trust me, you can do a lot better taking only 2 a day than 3.</p>
<p>You totally missed the point llpitch. Thanks for not reading my post at all.</p>
<p>instead of studying for new ones and cancelling them, why dont you just restudying the old ones and get better scores on them to wipe out the older ones...what you're doing is unneccesary</p>
<p>You are more of a genius than Albert Einstein.</p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
<p>Why would only 6 scores be sent??? The CB reports ALL available SAT and SAT subject test scores.</p>
<p>If you really want to be an SAT genius, just study for the ACTs.</p>
<p>I think the rule is actually "six sessions," which would mean that all your SAT II scores would be sent until you have sat for seven different test dates for SAT IIs. </p>
<p>Are you a rising senior? Scores are important, as you appear to recognize, but other issues are important too. Colleges generally give you the benefit of your best scores--check the policies of each college you plan to apply to. </p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=4198038&postcount=1%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=4198038&postcount=1</a> </p>
<p>From that point of view, there really isn't a point in making your earlier scores disappear from your record, as long as you have higher scores to report by the time you apply to college. But do remember that scores aren't the only factor in college admission. See the featured thread on the Parents Forum "How</a> do top scorers on tests fail to gain admission to top schools?" for other factors to keep in mind as you prepare your applications. Good luck.</p>
<p>I think tokenadult is right. If you look on SAT score reports, there are 6 rows for SAT Subject Test scores, meaning 6 seperate testing dates. So, jask, you shouldn't take any of the tests you're planning to take in december - you'll be wasting time and $$$$.</p>
<p>Are you guys absolutely sure it's counted per session date?</p>
<p>If so...maybe I should study more and take SAT II in december rather than november...</p>
<p>What should I do?</p>
<p>Well, you should end up with high scores. If you have high scores at the end of the process, the earlier scores won't matter so much. If you end up with a competitive SAT I score, and three high SAT II scores, even having other, earlier scores on your record shouldn't be so dangerous. What is dangerous is just not having high scores. </p>
<p>I know from your private message that you have various testing scenarios that could fit your schedule. The best thing in your personal situation is to figure out where you are most likely to show score increases, and (re)test on those tests that will most raise your overall profile. And, as I trust you understand, work on all those non-testing-related details like grades, letters of recommendation, application essays, and so on.</p>
<p>I think your best option would be to go with your schedule above just without all of the December tests. If you are sure that the colleges you will apply to will accept December tests, you might want to split up the tests: e.g. take the two you think are easier (out of the ones you have already taken: USH, Physics, Math IIC) in November and the harder one in December - it'll will cost a little extra money, but will make your studying easier and get you higher scores
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<p>How do you cancel SAT II's 2 months after you took them?</p>
<p>OP gets some cleverness points for at least considering this level of strategy. </p>
<p>Princeton says that its admissions will consider all SAT-II scores and not just the three highest. It's hard to know how many other schools do the equivalent without announcing it. Other schools (JHU, Stanford, and others) have commented that they consider the whole score report and do not limit themselves to highest scores, even on SAT-I. So tokenadult's link to what he heard from Harvard is not correct as a description of what colleges in general do, and assuming that he quoted Harvard correctly, his conclusions are still probably wrong as they concern Harvard itself, for reasons covered in several other threads.</p>
<p>Low scores on SAT-II subject tests, especially a series of low scores, seem harder to discount than low scores on the SAT-I, for several reasons:
- those tests more directly correspond to the material in high school courses;
- the grading standard is more forgiving than on the SAT-I;
- SAT-II scores also tend to be higher because students get to select the subjects and play to their strengths.
- from what I have seen cited in CC and elsewhere, regression analyses, for whatever they are worth, generally find that SAT-II scores, like AP scores, are more predictive than SAT-I for college performance (not surprising, since people take the tests in subjects close to the ones they intend to study). So admissions may well pay at least as close attention to the tests that directly measure subject matter learning, as they do to the SAT-I which is more a general indicator of ability. </p>
<p>With that said, I think that tokenadult's comment that absence of high scores is worse than the existing presence of low scores, is correct.</p>
<p>The Caltech forum has previously included postings in which successive SAT II scores on the same test are treated with the highest being taken as authoritative. (Until I read that thread a few months ago, I had no idea that that many students submit retakes of SAT II tests.) The worse situation for an applicant to end up in is not having high scores. </p>
<p>The OP and all other persons are welcome, of course, to direct this question to college admission officers at regional information sessions. </p>
<p>From </p>
<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/brief/faq/%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/brief/faq/</a> </p>
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<p>We use the scores along with your grades and teacher references to make an informed assessment of your academic strengths. No one is admitted or refused admission on the basis of scores alone. For the SAT Reasoning Test, we look at your highest score on each of the three sections (critical reading, mathematics, and writing), even if you earned them on three different test dates. For the ACT, we look at your highest composite score. For the SAT Subject Tests, we look at your three highest subjects. If youve taken the same subject test more than once, we look at your highest score.
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<p>Wrong about Princeton: their viewbook, which is available online, states that they look at all scores on the SAT-II score report, and not just the highest three exams. Whether in the process of looking at all scores, the admissions officers perform the mental gymnastics of looking only at the highest of the lower scores, one for each subject test and somehow averting their gaze from any lower-lower ones, they do not specify.</p>
<p>Wrong about Caltech: as tokenadult knows (having started that thread and participated in it), a member of Caltech admissions committee stated a few months ago on CC that Caltech policy is not to consider only the highest scores (on any exam), their policy is to look at all scores and "focus on the highest scores". The same person also posted an example of a score pattern (something like 700-650-610) on three takings of the SAT-II, which would be considered worse than simply a 700; it removes the possibility that the first score really a "low 750".</p>
<p>Shall we post the links?</p>
<p>Princeton viewbook: </p>
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<p>Compare that to the admission office FAQ linked to above, which addresses an issue more on point to the OP's question. </p>
<p>Ben Golub made himself very clear in his post about Caltech's practices. I asked him a worst-case question, about what would happen if a subsequent score was WORSE than an earlier score. </p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=3544302&postcount=5%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=3544302&postcount=5</a> </p>
<p>Ben replied, "I am with tokenadult here." </p>
<p>Earlier in the same thread (which I opened to raise this question) he had said, "The summary sheet in every folder does list all scores (which the CB reports). Usually I just glanced at all of them and took the best ones as authoritative." I confirmed with Ben by private message that I was correctly understanding what he was saying, unlike another participant in that thread. </p>
<p>Some disagreements about what colleges say about these issues may stem from causes as simple as statements written in the English language being read by both native speakers and second-language speakers of English. The statements mentioned in this thread are at the referenced places, and any onlooker can read them. Best wishes to the test-takers trying to raise their scores on the critical reading section, the writing section, or the math section of the SAT I, and on any of the various SAT Subject Tests.</p>
<p>Your posts are amazing tokenadult - but they must take a long time to type up...</p>