<li>Which one is harder to get into ED?</li>
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<p>so i just realized Gtown does not have ED, but EA. So is gtown or nu harder to get into as a whole?</p>
<p>and…</p>
<p>would I have a better shot at Gtown EA or RD? Which pool accepts more?</p>
<p>The fact that Georgetown will not require a commitment from you until May 1 if you are accepted should tell you something.</p>
<p>sorry i am not following lol?</p>
<p>Georgetown is not afraid of the competition, and feels very strongly that anyone admitted can evaluate its offer against thst of any other school(s). Northwestern presses you for an early commitment because it does not have the same level of confidence that an admitted applicant will attend. It is obviously more difficult to be accepted by Georgetown. Northwestern must use more pressure to fill its class.</p>
<p>very interesting thoughts, vienna man. thanks.</p>
<p>vienna man,</p>
<p>interesting opinion, but please check out the facts:</p>
<p>mid-50% stats for admitted students:
georgetown: CR 680-760, Math 670-760<br>
northwestern: CR 690-770, Math 700-790 </p>
<p>sources:
<a href=“http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/admissions/applying_firstyear_sdprofile.cfm[/url]”>http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/admissions/applying_firstyear_sdprofile.cfm</a>
<a href=“http://www.ugadm.northwestern.edu/intl/applying/[/url]”>http://www.ugadm.northwestern.edu/intl/applying/</a></p>
<p>personally i like georgetown more, but that is not a good argument at all. I’m sure Brown and Columbia and Duke, just to name a few, all also require a commitment because they are insecure</p>
<p>Sam Lee. The acceptance rate however at NU is much higher than that at Gtown. Especially ED which i am considering at NU which was close to 44% lsat year! (20% at gtown seems like they really have a lot of applicants to choice from.)</p>
<p>Of course I am aware of that. If NU has lower or comparable acceptance rate, there wouldn’t be any question on this. But NU has higher acceptance rate and also higher test score; that’s the reason why nothing is obvious. But considering the large difference between ED and EA accetpance rates, Georgetown’s EA is probably harder to get in than NU’s ED. That’s not the case for RD, however.</p>
<p>are you saying Gtown RD might be easier to get into than NU ED? or are you comparing RD to RD and saying what?</p>
<p>thanks and sorry about all the questions.</p>
<p>RD vs RD–they are comparable with NU having marginally stronger applicant pool. NU’s ED is easier because they give you a sweet deal (44% admit rate last year) when you are committed to it.</p>
<p>At Georgetown, EA applicants are accepted at no higher a rate than they are ED; last year, I think it was actually a little under the ED rate. So given that and the fact that it’s non-binding, Georgetown doesn’t use EA to nail down a core group of its class early. I’d guess that since they’re a back-up school for a lot of HYP applicants, EA might give them a chance to allow some of those top-level applicants to fall in love with them before they hear back from HYP.</p>
<p>For applicant pools in the thousands these minor differences in SAT scores, like those between NW and GU are statistically insignificant. </p>
<p>The thing about Georgetown is that they truly don’t appear to care about maximizing the statistics, and being included in the latest ‘hot’ magazine article but do care about being sure the right group of candidates are in its applicant pool. Note, Georgetown doesn’t do the common application and Georgetown requires 3 SAT IIs. Georgetown doesn’t feed message boards and counseling networks with hype over “expected applications this year.” It has a top 20 basketball team but doesn’t fill its media guides and official websites with discussion about the heads of state, cabinet members, senators and military and academic leaders in its alumni pool. More than other top schools it appears really committed to giving the student the maximum choice in this important decision. I admit I am an alumnus and carry obvious biases in favor of Georgetown, but its approach to this whole highly charged process is refreshing and truly student-centered.</p>
<p>I think the two schools are probably about the same level of difficulty. Georgetown EA and RD admissions statistics are really similar, so basically you can’t get an advantage. I guess Northwestern ED might accept more people, but there’s always that self-selection thing. I would recommend applying based on what school you actually like more rather than which you might have a better chance at. If you do ED to Northwestern and realize you like Georgetown more, then you’re kind of stuck.</p>
<p>“The thing about Georgetown is that they truly don’t appear to care about maximizing the statistics, and being included in the latest ‘hot’ magazine article but do care about being sure the right group of candidates are in its applicant pool.”</p>
<p>Interesting…The SAT average at gtown is around a 1370-1380. The same thing at NU is now a 1423. That is a good 40-45 points. Marginal? really…</p>
<p>Thus, if it is so marginal, I guess gtown is comparable to USC, Emory, Rochester, Brandeis, Barnard…</p>
<p>45-50 points is a huge amount. That is the difference between the 93-97th percentiles when it comes to SAT percentiles. If you look at collegeboard sat statistics, you will see that every percentile up carries thousands less with those scores. The competition for high scoring students is intense among college. No college strives to fill a class with kids with lower scores. The problem w. Georgetown is not that it doesn’t care about sat scores but rather it loses to other schools…</p>
<p>Just my biased opinion and my rant- but when a school gets to the point that it is one of seven institutions with a sitting Supreme Court Justice, one of about 3 with 2or more sitting governors, has five sitting members of the US Senate, has current, future or recent past Heads of State for four of the 100 and three of the thirty most populous nations in the world, is one of only 30 or so undergrad institutions to graduate a US President, has the current Secretary of Defense, US Solicitor General and Army Chief of Staff (and these superlatives just go on and on and on if you want to research them; another example-Forbes ranked two Georgetown alumnae among the 15 most powerful women in the world in 2005, Oh I will shut up, the point is made in spades)---- with those kind of numbers a school with that profile can have any virtually any level of SATs it wants. Surely it will pick more high scorers than low scorers but when you are choosing the kind of class to be exposed to that legacy of alumni achievement, the school must make a special effort to go beyond the raw numbers (for the sake of the nation and the world if I may engage in hyperbole). To this end, with no common application, and requiring three SAT IIs and an alumni interview; this is not the behavior of a school trying to maximize applications and bring every high scorer into its pool. Once you decide on Georgetown, Georgetown truly makes sure you are a student that can use its very special opportunities. </p>
<p>When you are sitting in the Dentist’s office with your slide rule going over US News, remember the other numbers I just alluded to. Also, GUs numbers if you go to their admissions site are fully comparable to any institution in the country and I would especially avoid any chess matches or trivial pursuit games with GU freshmen in its SFS and College.</p>
<p>Hell, talking about numbers, Georgetown even has a football team that has been beaten five weeks in a row. These are Duke and Notre Dame level gridiron numbers.</p>
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<p>Your argument would be more compelling were it not for the fact that 12 of the 17 alumni you mentioned either graduates of SFS or the Law School (and of the remaining five alumni, only four were undergraduates). It is not surprising that your post is dominated by SFS and Law grads though, because the SFS and Law School (aided in no small part by their D.C. area location), are what create the necessary coattails for Georgetown as a whole to even be mentioned in the same discussion with a school like Northwestern. </p>
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<p>The only school at Georgetown that needs to make a special effort is SFS. After all, this program is primarily what gives Georgetown that legacy of alumni achievement that you are going on and on about.</p>
<p>that it is one of seven institutions with a sitting Supreme Court Justice</p>
<p>gee…I thought that NU had one alum as well? His last name sounds like a first name…</p>
<p>Also, GUs numbers if you go to their admissions site are fully comparable to any institution in the country and I would especially avoid any chess matches or trivial pursuit games with GU freshmen in its SFS and College.</p>
<p>“Also, GUs numbers if you go to their admissions site are fully comparable to any institution in the country and I would especially avoid any chess matches or trivial pursuit games with GU freshmen in its SFS and College.”</p>
<p>So are you saying that the business school and the nursing school are second-rate?</p>
<p>If Gtown has such a great reputation, then why isn’t is PA score so low? I mean, I think the PA score is completely flawless. But I think this is more so because the score penalizes non-east coat school schools. And Gtown is located within close distance to the Northeast.</p>