"GHETTO" Colleges.

<p>jec, maybe it’s time for a little geography lesson for you: Detroit is not the only city in the Midwest! What a thought. I’m not from Detroit, but I live in Cleveland, and spent years before that living in Philadelphia. I’m less “suburban” than at least 3/4 of Yale, went to public school and probably have a better understanding of “crime” and “the ghetto” than you do. I’m guessing you go to Penn State? Not exactly the most “rough” neighborhood, buddy. So unless you’re a fellow Philly native or a Pitt kid, I kind of doubt that you have any authority to comment on urban crime. And as someone who doesn’t go to a school in any of the areas you’re calling “ghetto,” it’s kind of hard to comment. One visit to the Hopkins campus doesn’t mean that you can decisively comment on the safety of the area. I’ll trust a JHU or Penn student over you, and most of them seem to agree that the areas aren’t as bad as they’re made out to be. </p>

<p>CalCruzer: I think what’s been bringing up the “race” issue is the use of the word “ghetto,” which has a pretty distinctly racist connotation in the US. If this thread were about “dangerous colleges” or “unsafe, rundown neighborhoods,” I don’t think the “race card” would have been played at all. If you look up the word, its definition involves a “minority” group…ie, not white people. If I totally misunderstood the sentiment of this thread, I apologize. It’s just that when I hear the word “ghetto” used, it’s always in reference to a minority-heavy area.</p>

<p>the University of Montana and University of Wyoming are pretty ghetto as well.</p>

<p>laramie, wyoming is 91 percent white and has a population of just over 20,000. i spent two weeks there last summer and saw 2 people of color and 0 visibly poor people the entire time.</p>

<p>“laramie, wyoming is 91 percent white and has a population of just over 20,000. i spent two weeks there last summer and saw 2 people of color and 0 visibly poor people the entire time.”</p>

<p>WOW… slaughtered.</p>

<p>Jec45,</p>

<p>"The areas around Hopkins/Penn/Catholic in DC are not good areas. I am sure there are worse places in the world (some places in afghanistan probably), but they are not places that you want to walk around at night. Just because you live in these places and they may have a good street here or there, that does them “nice”.</p>

<p>I agree with you. One has to analyze the risk and the benefit of these schools for themselves, together with your parents. When moving in my friend’s D to JHU, we could hear gunshots in the distance…close enough that we could actually hear the gunshots. Not exactly what a parent or a student should hear in one’s day. One of the nurses I worked with before from JHU mentioned that she recalls a student being shot and incidents of muggings at late hours. So, as parents we made a decision that JHU would not be a place my S would apply to. </p>

<p>He loves the city and the suburbs too. I just didn’t want him in harms way at a very young age.</p>

<p>The nurse from JHU was undoubtedly referring to a student at the East Baltimore campus, which is where the medical institutions are. That is a vastly different neighborhood (much worse although improving) than the ones around Homewood–which is where undergraduates are.</p>

<p>I’ve spent years at Homewood and never heard a gunshot there, although Greenmount Ave, which is 1/2 mile east, is a sketchy neighborhood where drug deals happen so it is not inconceivable that one could hear a gunshot from campus. But the campus itself is very safe (Readers Digest recently rated it the safest due to very fine security) and the surrounding areas, which are where students are apt to find themselves, are fine as long as you use reasonable judgment.</p>

<p>If you research the crime statistics–you’ll discover that the Homewood campus of Hopkins is as safe or safer than most schools in suburban or even rural areas.</p>

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<li><p>just about any school in Urban Philly is a ghetto: Temple (which is by far the ghettoest), Drexel, UPenn.</p></li>
<li><p>USC</p></li>
<li><p>University of Maryland</p></li>
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<p>I think this is a subjective call. I’ve been hearing gunshots all of my life living in B’more, and its never made me feel unsafe or made me want to live somewhere else–not have I have I ever even seen someone with a gun. Not to say that it’s not a legitimate reason not to go to a school, because each’s person’s personal comfort lvel is different, but I still stand by the idea that JHU is not particuarlly unsafe. Muggings and such are the kind of thing that can happen in any urban area–or even small towns, as they do at Wesleyan, on occasion. </p>

<p>Again, not to say it is th safest campus you will ever find, but no Urban campus is.</p>

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Puh-lease!</p>

<p><em>snaps fingers and shakes head for emphasis</em></p>

<p>CC seems to have a very loose criteria for what’s “ghetto” and what’s not.</p>

<p>and, the Supreme Court now says it legal, so better get earplugs.</p>

<p>Although I wouldn’t consider Columbia as “ghetto”, it is however, an unsafe school. Over the last year Columbia had numerous incidences where a student would be mugged and chased to his death (car accident). Theres also the case of a Teachers College professor at Columbia who reported about a Noose hanging on her door and several other incidences. But, I’m not at all surprised because its NYC.</p>

<p>Another school thats not too safe is Syracuse. At least if you go outside of campus. But If you use campus escort services frequently at night and the blue light system then you shouldn’t have a problem.</p>

<p>When i went to visit my school I had this image of crackheads outside our gates, dealers shootin people for unpaid bread, and hookers.</p>

<p>CC, please learn to distinguish between GHETTO and NOT rich.</p>

<p>The area USC is in is FAR from ghetto. You want GHETTO? Go from 165-190th+ in NYC. Go to hood parts of Camden or Baltimore, but just because the FREEWAY or road to get to south central a mile away is there doesn’t mean you are in the ghetto.</p>

<p>Same for Columbia, yea its in Harlem, ,but is in the beginning really, and as long as you aren’t walkin down 145th alone with your white ipod headphones (I still don’t know why people have them, they aren’t even that comfortable) playing on your iphone you’ll be fine. But I would venture to say Columbia is in a more hood part of the city than SC is, but being from around here and growing up I can tell you that nothing bad is going to happen to you at Columbia as long as you use some common sense.</p>

<p>There aren’t any really amazing schools in the middle of the ghetto, maybe near one, but not in one. Even UChicago is in a relatively nice part of Chicago.</p>

<p>Edit: House of London, both of those indicents sound like students. How do I know? </p>

<p>Knowing people from around there, they aren’t going to risk getting bagged to f*** with a Columbia student for no reason. Either was a drug deal gone bad, or the kid really did just get unfortunate, but trust me, we aren’t trying to go to jail for no damn reason.</p>

<p>Second, the noose hanging, what are the chances that a non student would find a specific teacher of that subject and post it on his door? Nearly impossible and highly improbable, because what person wakes up and says, “Hey today I’m going to get a noose, wait for night and sneak onto an ivy league campus to intimidate the administration! That’s sticking it to the man!”</p>

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<p>Yeah, sorry, but that’s pretty far from true…</p>

<p>I remember I visited Temple and it scared the hell out of me. They have like an army of cops and even some watch towers (not too high though). The student ambassador told us that the lights at night are so bright that you can go out on the street and read a book at 3am.</p>

<p>Watch towers? We have booths where security sits just in case anything happens. Army of cops? We have our own PD, but they don’t appear like an ‘army’. I dont see why the last comment is a big deal. It’s not scary at all…</p>

<p>Penn State is surrounded by cornfields. What does “ghetto” mean anyways in CC?</p>

<p>I was just at JHU Homewood campus with my son and many other precollege students in June, and we were perfectly safe.</p>

<p>While you may feel safe inside Temple’s campus as you would at most other campuses across the nation, the reason Temple is being rated as one of the ghettoest colleges is prolly cause the surrounding area is not the type of area you would want to take a nice stroll around the block or so alone at night.
That part of Philly is just Ghetto at its finest.</p>

<p>There’s no reason to be there, though. I have a feeling you have no idea what you’re talking about. Actually, I found Coral Gables to be pretty bad.</p>