<p>is it true that if you are in the gifted and talented education program (gate) that you get 1 credit for all 4 years of high school?
if so, does this count in your class rank?</p>
<p>We don't go to your school, therefore we do not know.</p>
<p>But do MOST schools do that? does your school do that?</p>
<p>my district has pace. but we dont do what ur school does</p>
<p>No. My school stops gifted education after 8th grade.</p>
<p>"Most schools" don't do that, to my knowledge. Correct me, someone, if I'm wrong.</p>
<p>I didn't get any credits for high school. I wouldn't worry about it though -- by the time you finish senior year, you'll have more than enough credits to graduate.</p>
<p>GATE is a pathetic joke to inflate people's egos and parents bragging rights. As a program, it is a complete failure and a waste of tax paying money. Ask your counselor, make them earn their money for once.</p>
<p>Our district ended gifted and talentled education after elementary school. ._.</p>
<p>"GATE is a pathetic joke to inflate people's egos and parents bragging rights. As a program, it is a complete failure and a waste of tax paying money. Ask your counselor, make them earn their money for once."</p>
<p>I'd be careful to make such sweeping generalizations. There are different programs for gifted kids across the nation with different procedures and systems for admissions. Plus, never underestimate the importance of teachers! :) </p>
<p>In my district, they had elementary-8th grade gifted education, though they added a high school level recently. I only went for middle school, though some of my close friends went to the program for elementary school too. The general concensus is that the middle school program was extremely worthwhile because we were lucky to have basically the best teachers ever. Even as seniors, kids still talk about the good ol'days in one of the teacher's classroom---because he was just so beyond awesome as this amazingly high-quality teacher. They pushed us hard and we learned a LOT more than I ever did in high school....but I hear that the teachers at the high school level and elementary school level pale in comparison to the middle school level, so really, it depends.</p>
<p>Anyway, to answer the OP's question, it'll vary on school district. I was part of the 2nd year policy of the program where 8th graders took freshman level classes and therefore gained credit and a years' worth of acceleration. If we choose, it can count for high school credit and boost our class rank.</p>
<p>Yeah, every district has its own gifted program. Many of them happen to be called "GATE", in fact, so there's no way to even tell if two GATE programs are the same.</p>
<p>I have been in again in high school. I just get a few emails for some helpful events. Btw, I don't want our counselors to paid more because they hurt our chances of getting into prestigious colleges.</p>
<p>The problem was that in GATE, the sole criteria for judgment was student GPA and state test scores. Many truly brilliant people were left out of the program as they never had the same chance to prep for the state testing as they live in a poorer part of the district(the district encompasses several cities). Most people participating were generally middle/upper middle class, Asians that could have every opportunity to do well in school. These people were nowhere near gifted and talented. Most of the boys in the program could be seen playing their Gameboys after school before their mothers made them go to their private tutoring sessions in virtually every subject. Also, the students in GATE were also the primary culprits in cheating at classes, probably due to the pressure their families put on them to do well in school. I thank God that the program was offered only in Elementary and Middle school. </p>
<p>I suppose every program is different... But ours was a pathetic joke.</p>
<p>I agree about the comments about the GATE. I was in "Gifted Education" (7th to 8th - My only first two years in United States) and was put solely because of teachers recommendations (which were not unfounded). It was a walk in the park if anything!</p>
<p>lol I remember when I was in GATE for 6th through 8th grade. Our work seemed exactly the same as the "normal" kids work because our GATE teachers taught normal classes as well. So yeah, nothing really special there except the fact that we got the opportunity to learn Algebra I in 8th grade whereas most other kids had 8th grade math.</p>
<p>My district stops gifted classes at 6th graded and starts honors in 7th.</p>
<p>"GATE is a pathetic joke to inflate people's egos and parents bragging rights. As a program, it is a complete failure and a waste of tax paying money. Ask your counselor, make them earn their money for once."</p>
<p>they spend way more on mentally retarded kids than on GATE kids and the gate kids are a better investment.</p>
<p>gifted in middle school meant that you were "smart". or smarter than the rest of the school.
then when high school sarted, "gifted" meant, ummm....ese.</p>
<p>is it like that everywhere?</p>
<p>"they spend way more on mentally retarded kids than on GATE kids and the gate kids are a better investment."</p>
<p>How is operating GATE a better "investment" then educating the disabled? You've really got to set your social priorities straight, axdev.</p>
<p>Uh, it's kind of a trade-off. Nothing is either socially "better" or "worse". (Unless your district is rich) You can either help the handicapped people keep up with the rest of the pack or you can help the gifted people excel. Neither is better than the other. Personally, I would rather that people would help the gifted excel, but perhaps that's just because I would have preferred to have more AP classes than just six and not move through classes at a snail's pace because half the class doesn't pay attention. Especially since I see some people on here taking 6 AP classes per year and my school offers 6 total. In my school, the ratio of students to teachers is something like 30-32:1 (our classes are huge) whereas the ratio of disabled students to the teachers that teach them is something like 5:1. Personally, I wish it was a little more balanced, but such is life.</p>
<p>It's really a question on who needs what more... We can't just see it as a trade-off or what is better than the other. The problem is that for many districts the GATE program does not help kids excel at all, just putting students who are already academically achieved in the same position they were in before. In the mean time, it is the handicapped and disabled who truly need a boost of help in society. Children in the Los Angeles inner city diagnosed with autism get less than 2 hours of professional help a week, in far contrast to the 30 hour help per week obtained by students in more affluent neighborhoods. The situation already has too many problems and gaps, leaving much to be desired. Calling for a better "balance", for the sake of an academic few is both unjust and selfish.</p>