<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Are there any "good" schools known to encourage girls in engineering though the the credentials are not strong as boys?</p>
<p>Thanks,
Soon to be a senior</p>
<p>From what I've heard, being a girl gives you a leg up on the boys...I don't know if this is true EVERYWHERE though.</p>
<p>Most Engineering Colleges are eager to encourage girls that are interested in studying engineering. </p>
<p>Not knowing what you mean by; ". . . though the the credentials are not strong as boys?"; it is difficult to be specific. </p>
<p>I would think that the credentials would have to be competetive, but that a girl might have a greater chance of acceptance than a boy with the same credentials. </p>
<p>The Colleges do not break out SAT Scores, GPA's and Class Rank By Gender in the Common Data Sets. The CDS do show number of each gender that applied and the number admitted.</p>
<p>From Recent Classes</p>
<p>MIT.......Applied.......Admitted....Rate Fall</a> 2005<br>
men........7608...........758......9.9%
women.....2832...........736....25.9%</p>
<p>Cornell Engineering Fall</a> 2005
............Applied.......Admitted...Rate
men.........3779.........1271......33.6%
women......1080..........581......53.8%</p>
<p>RPI.........Applied.......Admitted.....Rate Fall</a> 2005
men..........4237.........3291......77.7%
women......1337..........1049.....78.4%</p>
<p>Caltech.....Applied......Admitted....Rate Fall</a> 2004
men..........2120...........374......17.6%
women........641...........192......29.9%</p>
<p>I know the state university (known for engineering) in our state has a special "living-learning community" especially for girls called WISE (stands for Women In Science and Engineering) that is supposed to be a support system for girls in traditionally male dominated majors</p>
<p>Yeah I'm not sure what you mean by, "...though the the credentials are not strong as boys?" either. I'm going to just ignore that so I won't get irritated by assuming you meant something you may not have.</p>
<p>Anyway, my school (Louisiana Tech) is also starting a "living-learning community" kind of thing. They're reserving the first floor of one of their dorms for freshmen female engineering students. Soon they hope to convert that entire dorm into a female honors dorm. </p>
<p>Most schools offer the Society of Women Engineers and other engineering clubs, though. Eveyone I've talked to at my school pretty much says to get involved in the engineering community or start thinking about what your next major will be.</p>
<p>I am not sure which colleges favor female engineers the most, but I think Software and Industrial engineering favor females the most. After that, maybe Biomedical, Electrical, Civil. Just my opinion.</p>
<p>Link to Society of Women Engineers:
<a href="http://www.swe.org/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=5%5B/url%5D">http://www.swe.org/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=5</a></p>
<p>In a graduating class over 130 EE majors, there were only a handful of women from the USA. Women were made to feel quite welcome by the university, the faculty, and fellow students, I would say. And, they did very well.</p>
<p>Thanks for the replies.</p>
<p>Let me clarify my comment on credentials. I was thinking about situations where a female applicant has sligtlly lower score ( either SAT or GPA ( 3.8 versus 3.9) ) compared to a male applicant.</p>
<p>I don't think females should be favored in Engineering as far as what you're asking goes, but I'm sure that sort of thing happens like it does for minority applicants. </p>
<p>But remember that GPA and test scores aren't all colleges look at...great ECs can close a small gap in test scores easily.</p>
<p>Do men get into elementary education and nursing programs with lesser credentials than women?</p>
<p>I think Gender only marginally affect admissions for engineering/nursing. Don't be fooled by percentages - they have a hidden variable.</p>
<p>Of course, in some cases, the "marginal effect" can get you in.</p>
<p>I'd say that the huge difference in acceptance percentages are a result of the females applying simply being more likely to be qualified. Luckily I found an article that supports my logic.</p>
<p>"Those 2002 graduating females who planned to major in engineering, however, were among the better prepared students in this category; they had higher GPAs and ACT scores and were more likely to have taken advanced math and science coursework than their male counterparts."</p>
<p>Do men get into elementary education and nursing programs with lesser credentials than women?</p>
<p>they do with nursing, not sure about elementary ed though.</p>
<p>Females have lower math and science GPA's and lower math standardized test scores than males, IN GENERAL. To deny that is to be encapsulated in a shell of political correctness. Please don't flame me for stating this, I am making NO general assertion about ability, just about the data. Also, I don't think that it is right that women are admitted with preference to any major, as they are already admitted to college at a higher percentage than men and make up more than half of all college students in the USA. If anything, there should be an effort to re balance the male/female ratio by admitting more males. For what it is worth, I thnk that females make fine engineers, I just thnk that programs should be blind as to sex across the board.</p>
<p>Ok, Tom...now read/re-read the article that I posted. Out of the people who choose Engineering as a career interest on the ACT, the females scored higher, had higher GPAs, and were more likely to have taken higher maths and sciences. We're not talking about in general, we're talking about a select group of students.</p>
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Also, I don't think that it is right that women are admitted with preference to any major, as they are already admitted to college at a higher percentage than men and make up more than half of all college students in the USA. If anything, there should be an effort to re balance the male/female ratio by admitting more males.
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This is not the case at the numerous technically oriented universities around the country that have strong engineering programs, which are trying to attract females to their student bodies in general.
To the OP: take a look at schools where the gender ratio is greatly skewed towards males, as in 60/40 or above. While at no university will merely being female give you an advantage worth counting on, if push comes to shove you would get a <em>slight</em> advantage.</p>
<p>yah i ws like?? math used to be my hardest subject..ask me now and ive got the best/closest to best grades in class andd ive got a better overall understanding of both...I sometimes tutor my classmates. This is b/c i decided to take over both b/c of Small school mess ups...</p>
<p>Allow me to quantify "slight edge" (an Ivy league school accepting 54% of the applicants in this group)</p>
<p>MIT.......Applied.......Admitted....Rate Fall 2005
men........7608...........758......9.9%
women.....2832...........736....25.9%</p>
<p>Cornell Engineering Fall 2005
............Applied.......Admitted...Rate
men.........3779.........1271......33.6%
women......1080..........581......53.8%</p>
<p>RPI.........Applied.......Admitted.....Rate Fall 2005
men..........4237.........3291......77.7%
women......1337..........1049.....78.4%</p>
<p>Caltech.....Applied......Admitted....Rate Fall 2004
men..........2120...........374......17.6%
women........641...........192......29.9%</p>
<p>There is only one undergraduate engineering school in the country that GUARANTEES, with a 3.5 GPA, admission to the engineering graduate schools at Dartmouth, Tufts, JHU, Princeton, UMichigan, and Notre Dame.</p>
<p>Smith. It's all women. (no girls)</p>
<p>(It's likely easier for women to get into than MIT or Caltech, harder than Cornell and RPI.)</p>
<p>Smith. It's all women. (no girls)</p>
<p>haha...this sounds like a very interesting program. I'm definitely going to look into it...I'm just a little wary about an all women school.</p>
<p>The females applying for engineering are qualified at a higher rate than males. How hard is this concept to understand?</p>