Go into management immediatly after graduation?

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<p>SSJ2......will all due respect, your expectations are out of line with the real world of engineering and management I've been dealing with for 30 years. Unless you start your own company, few employers are going to want to even train (or should I say invest in) an engineering manager who isn't first a team player. And to be a team player in engineering, you've got to prove yourself as an engineer first. Its hard to avoid paying your dues, & if you are too anxious to be the big fish before earning it in the eyes of the senior management, they may be even more reluctant to advance you, further confounding your ambitions. Think about their position......why would they want to give the keys to the car to someone who doesn't know the business bottom-up?</p>

<p>100k plus range that karthikkito reports is what I've experienced in my industry as well.</p>

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<p>SS, I like your ambition, but not your atittude. If you have that kind of drive and ambition and are willing to apply yourself, there is no limit to what one can accomplish. But you must also accept certain realities. </p>

<p>There is not such thing as being a manager straight out of college. It usually takes 4-6 years to become a low level manager, assuming you bust your behind and are extremely good. Otherwise, it takes even longer. It does not matter what industry you go into, be it IB, MC or Engineering and it does not matter which university you go to, how well you do there or how intelligent or well connected you are. At the end of the day, fresh college grads are given entry level positions and it takes years of excellent and steady performance and team work to get to the managerial level. </p>

<p>Furthermore, you will ALWAYS answer to somebody. So if you do not like being ordered around, you are really out of luck. Even CEOs answer to the board of directors, the shareholders, their employees, external auditors and the law. Company owners must answer to their customers and to the authorities. And that's at the highest level. Such people have been excelling in the corporate world for decades to get to the level they reached. </p>

<p>But mid-level managers must answer to people from all sides. These days, a managers own subordinates write performance appraisals of their managers and if a manager's employees aren't happy, the manager will not be considered for future promosion...and could even find herself/himself out of the job. Of course, all managers report into a director or Vice president and mkust answer to them. And then, every manager has customers, internal or external, and must answer to them too. </p>

<p>And then, you will one day get married and you will have to answer to your wife. And then you die. LOL So SS, accept it man, you are always going to have to answer to a higher authority, be it the legal authorities, the board of directors (I hope you reach that level), directors and VPs, managers, customers (both internal and external), your own employees and most of all, your spouse!</p>

<p>And I don't know who told you that Engineering Managers make $1 million. That is not even close. Engineerings from top universities (undergraduate degree) start at $45,000-$65,000 and their salaries increase, on average, at a pace of 4%-6% annually. Every 2 or so years, an high flying performer will get a 10% bump for a promotion. So let us say you start at $55,000, do you know how long it would take you to get to $100K (forget about the $1 million)? After three years, if you are an excellent performer and really work hard, you will hit the $70 K range. It will take you an additional 5 years to hit the $100K. But that's assuming you are an amazing performer.</p>

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<p>SS-</p>

<p>Have you considered professional sports? That seems like a good plan for you. Most big sports professionals are able to make at least a million in starting salary, and if you're really good at what you do, you can get away with <em>anything</em>!</p>

<p>I'd start running stairs at the local stadium if I were you. ;)</p>

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<p>hey mysticgohan</p>

<p>i see u have a lot of posts stating that engineering is a good way to make a shi.t load of money. jus like every1 else on this board says, i concur that engineering is a career for ppl that enjoy solvin problems not to make money.</p>

<p>if u want to make more money than 90% of engineers within 3 yrs , go become a cop, in the bay area, starting salaries are 50-60K, if u work overtime u get time and a half. u can also get off duty security work for $45 an hour. i got this information from sj mercury news last week. average salary of cops are about 75K yrly plus shi.tload of benefits. top pay is 95K. all this money, pension, and health care w/ out even a college degree. check out fire fighters too, starting for those guys is 75K average salary is 100K. if ur looking for money engineering is probably the worst field. </p>

<p>but then again i dont think ur really serious about becomin an engineer else u wouldnt be posting idiotic topics about makin lots of money as an engineer. i wish i had more ppl like u in my classes, would definitely bring down the curve</p>

<p>btw how old r u?
and have u even started calculus or physics?</p>