<p>Could I go into management for engineering immediatly after I get my BS in engineering? Could I expect over 100k starting salary for my first engineering management job?</p>
<p>Probably not. You should be an engineer (and a damn good one at that) before you try to manage one.</p>
<p>phpguru</p>
<p>No. No. </p>
<p>CC wouldn't accept the above because it was "too short." A longer answer is that companies don't hire graduating engineers as managers. They hire them as trainee engineers. If they want a manager, they hire someone with specific management training or a proven track record - or both. </p>
<p>Your chances of being offered a first year salary of over $100,000 are somewhere between very slim and none.</p>
<p>Are you kidding? Harvard MBAs and Yale Lawyers do not start at over $100 K. Engineerings get paid more than any other majors, but that usually means something between $45,000 and $65,000 if you are at MIT, Stanford or anothe top 7 or 8 Engineering program.</p>
<p>you can't manage what you haven't done.......meaning, you have to fulfill the role of engineer, and be a darned good one, before you are considered for a management position of other engineers.</p>
<p>Companies like GE and Lockheed do have leadership development programs where they train you intensely for 2-3 years as well as forcing you to get a masters degree to get you ready to become a manager after the program is over. It is hard to get into these programs, and again they don't pay you 100k starting out. The only way to make 100k immediately is to go do investment banking and earn it from the bonuses. Even then you really EARN your money because chances are you'll be working 80+ hours a week.</p>
<p>I got an offer from the Lockheed management track program that you mentioned, and the salary was $52,500.</p>
<p>im_blue,</p>
<p>Aren't you in grad school right now? So I guess you didn't take that offer. Do you think you would have more opportunities if you got more education? Is that like a starting salary with a huge salary increase down the line?</p>
<p>I think that even though engineers start with one of the best starting salaries, the amount it increases over the years is pretty slow. All the engineer's I know have retired with salaries of like 90k. Law may start slow, but doesn't it pass engineering pretty quickly?</p>
<p>Not necessarily. If you are willing to eventually manage more projects but less technicality and become a tech. manager. A senior manager can be achieved after 10-20 years and can make between 85k-120k+ easily depending on the job. If you pad on the perks such as stock options, profit sharing and extra vacation days, it rounds out pretty nicely. People tend to forget that salary is only one portion of the package you are receiving, benefits can easily more than make up for a lower salary.</p>
<p>No, I didn't that the offer. I'm in grad school because I want to be a professor. It's not about the money for me.</p>
<p>Benefits are worth ****. Salary is everything. Without salary, your jobless, homeless, and dead.</p>
<p>Without healcare coverage, you are also dead. Benefits are very important. Trying paying for medication and doctors visits without insurance and your salary won't last you too long.</p>
<p>One of the big perks about being president of the U.S. are the "useless" benefits. Free food, travel, stamps, vacations, healthcare, living -- you name it. Once you get out on your own and have to pay for those things, you will see your salary quickly diminishing to pay for those. If you have benefits, what you earn is all yours. </p>
<p>You know SSJ, I am really getting tired of your meaningless posts. You post many, many questions on this board and expect people to give you honest and good advice which people do. And when others post questions/comments, you respond with false, naive, and immature statements. I feel that you should at least show the board/members some respect/gratitude since it does the same to you.</p>
<p>im_blue,</p>
<p>About the Lockheed management track program, exactly what kind of qualifications do you need to be offered a job in that? Is it possible for a person with an ug in engineering to be offered that without any business knowledge/experience? What kind of salaries could be expected after your training and start to really work?</p>
<p>JoyJoy,</p>
<p>and also, ELDP and ISLDP should have a starting salary of around $56-58k....52k sounds a little too low. I know this because a couple of my friends are currently in the ELDP right now.</p>
<p>How long does an engineer have to work on average to get into management? One of the only reasons why I'm getting into engineering and I-banking is because I want to get into management immediatly after graduation as I cannot stand to be in a position where I'm taking orders or where I'm not the biggest fish in the room.</p>
<p>unless you're in charge of the company, you'll be responsible to a bigger fish.</p>
<p>not if your the engineering manager. they take orders from no1 and they make can make $1000000.</p>
<p>"The median expected salary for a typical Engineering Manager in San Jose, CA is $118,281."
...in Detroit, MI is $111,855
...in New York, NY is $117,478
...in Atlanta, GA is $100,910"
<a href="http://www.salary.com/salary/layoutscripts/sall_display.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.salary.com/salary/layoutscripts/sall_display.asp</a></p>
<p>really...thats about 10% of what you're expecting =p</p>