<p>tell me what your take on these schools is for someone(me) who is interested in business</p>
<li>usc(marshall)</li>
<li>nyu (stern)</li>
<li>cal (haas)</li>
<li>ucla… i dont think it has an undergrad business program</li>
<li>columbia… does it have an undergrad business program?</li>
<li>cornell… does it have an undergrad business?</li>
<li>georgetown (McDonough)</li>
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<p>in terms of getting a job, a degree from which of these schools is best? also is it true that USC truly has the best Alumni Networking?</p>
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<li>usc(marshall) -- dunno</li>
<li>nyu (stern) -- very good, though stingy with financial aid</li>
<li>cal (haas) -- never heard of?</li>
<li>ucla.. i dont think it has an undergrad business program -- I dunno</li>
<li>columbia.. does it have an undergrad business program? -- dunno</li>
<li>cornell.. does it have an undergrad business? -- it has the AEM (applied economics and management) program, which qualifies as undergrad business. However, the program is probably more selective than Wharton. most people just go for econ at arts and science.</li>
<li>georgetown (McDonough) -- I heard it was good</li>
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<p>Don't go for just "business" undergrad majors. Many schools have strong Economcis programs, which is quite comparable for an aspiring businessperson. </p>
<p>Dartmouth, for one, has a nice Economics program, and one of the most helpful Alumni networks. Northwestern's business programs are excellent as well -- like, beyond amazing, some of them anyway, and there are quite a few.</p>
<p>They are all excellent. Columbia and UCLA do not have Business programs for undergrads, but their Economics departments are top notch. Cornell does have an undergraduate Applied Economics program which is considered to be similar to a Business program. </p>
<p>Any top university will have an excellent Econ department, so do not limit yourself just to schools with Business programs. Brown, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Harvard, Northwestern, Princeton, Stanford and Yale are all amazing universities with top notch Econ departments. Same goes for top LACs. Any of those universities will provide you with an excellent education and, provided you make the effort, with excellent professional placement opportunities.</p>
<p>In terms of Business programs, the University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) is #1. Nobody will debate that. Generally speaking, Cal (Haas), MIT (Sloan), Michigan (Ross), NYU (Stern) and UVa (McIntire) are next. After those, you have a bunch of excellent business school, such as Carnegie Mellon (Tepper), Cornell, Emory (Goizuetta), Georgetown (McDonough), Notre Dame (Mendoza), Texas-Austin (McCombs), UNC-Chapel Hill, (Kenan Flagler) USC (Marshall).</p>
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<li>usc(marshall)- ehh... Its very good... I know that much</li>
<li>nyu (stern)- Famous... also very good... I would put it ahead of USC</li>
<li>cal (haas) -hard to get into... spend fresh and soph doodling and then they either accept or reject you Junior year(about half are accepted every year)...so you may pend 2 years and get rejected ... yuck...</li>
<li>ucla.. no Biz Program... only Minor and Grad School</li>
<li>columbia.. I don't think so...</li>
<li>cornell.. Yes... really good... don't know too much about it... it ranks top 5 in biz week</li>
<li>georgetown - nothing too spectacular...I hear...</li>
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<p>UPenn, UM, MIT, UT, CMU, UNC, and UWash are also programs to look at.
UPenn is the best but dead hard to get into... (1 by biz week)
MIT is also very good (rank 9 I think by biz week)
UM is very widley known (ranks 7 by biz week)
UT I would say in the best Alumni workings...not USC... (10 by biz week)</p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon's Tepper is very underrated on these boards (also due to its small size that is 1/4 to 1/3 most bschools and known reputation as a tech school). Tepper based off its median/avg salaries of 60k is no different than Alexandre's "next" list of Stern/Haas/etc. and the mode companies are top Wall St. banks/consulting firms. The acceptance rate was 13% as of last year and may be less than 10% this year. It has a strong finance/quant analysis (#2) program as well as very strong Ops/Management and MIS programs (#2, #1). </p>
<p>I would say #1 Wharton is undisputed.</p>
<p>Then comes the likes of Sloan, Ross, Haas, Tepper, Stern.</p>
<p>have u looked at top schools that aren't business oriented. you can go into business from almost any major. </p>
<p>also wharton, tepper, georgetown, mit and umich have some great bschools.</p>
<p>i think berkeley haas is not that good at business as it is at tech, being in california and all. for wall st, i wouldn't say haas is that good.</p>
<p>i didnt mention wharton because i know it is the best for business, no question about that. i needed more info about others that are good but not up to par as wharton</p>
<p>Business is far from a pre-req for getting an elite job, and its often not even a boost. The best job placement is probably Harvard, Princeton, Wharton, Yale, Dartmouth and maybe MIT or Columbia. Most of these don't even have business undergrad degrees. As for USC having the strongest alumni networks, I'd argue its the Ivies that win in that regard.</p>
<p>In the most recent Business Week survey of undergrad business schools, here is the Top 10 ranking:</p>
<p>1, 100 points, U Penn (Wharton)
2, 98 points, U Virginia (McIntire)
3, 97 points, Notre Dame (Mendoza)
4, 92 points, MIT (Sloan)
5, 89 points, Emory (Goizueta)
6, 88 points, U Michigan (Ross)
7, 85 points, NYU (Stern)
8, 81 points, BYU (Marriott)
9, 81 points, U Texas (McCombs)
10, 80 points, U Indiana (Kelley)</p>
<p>It is important to point out that the survey and ranking is for undergrad BUSINESS schools, not which is the best feeder to Wall Street. Several of these are not well known and appreciated nationally because of the paucity of graduates in higher profile industries like I-banking and management consulting. Don’t let that fool you as the graduates of these undergraduate business colleges are usually very talented and very well prepared. </p>
<p>Re the Ivy comments, I agree with slipper that a business degree is not the be-all, end-all for employers and many top schools without undergrad business programs have little difficulty placing many students into highly competitive fields. Take the need for an undergrad business degree with a major grain of salt.</p>
<p>As for strong alumni networks, I don’t think that many on CC appreciate the power of the ND network. In the business world, it has enormous reach and power and is every bit the equal of the Ivy group.</p>