<p>I understand your pain and agony, but you got in over several other desirable applicants who stayed above the tempting influence during high school. IMO, since you clearly have done it more than once, I would be looking at my increasingly tempting waitlist</p>
<p>You did what you did. Now wait and find out the consequences, then man up and deal with the fallout. I agree that it won’t ruin your life, life is long. But it might change your life in the short term. </p>
<p>However, don’t you think that it would be a just decision for Cornell to rescind your acceptance. As Apollo11 pointed out, there is a waitlist. </p>
<p>Frankly, if you did get rescinded, you are in a much better place in life. From this point forward, all of your achievements will be your own, and you will likely go far because you will never again succumb to these shortcuts. However, if you get off easy, you might never learn your lesson, and the temptation will be great to repeat. </p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Oh shoot. You blatantly looked at an answer online? I thought it was just incorrectly citing a source…</p>
<p>There is nothing any of us can do to alleviate your worries. Just wait and see what happens. Appeal if you are rescinded. Since you have no other options, go to Community College for a year and transfer into ILR or something.</p>
<p>lol. I’ll tell u guys about the results…that’s if i still have the life in me after all of this is over. Thanks for the replies</p>
<p>I’m actually surprised at your school’s administration. They would go to great lengths to report this and have one of their students be possibly rescinded from college. What a terrible administration.</p>
<p>If you know for a fact that your counselor is going to report this to Cornell, maybe you should be proactive and tell them first. You sound very remorseful and that you have really learned a lesson. Perhaps they would have more leniency.</p>
<p>My D saw so much cheating going on in the AP classes in HS and the teacher turned a blind eye to all of it. These kids are probably cheating their way through college. While it is hard because you got caught and others didn’t- ironically, your life will be better for it. You will make it on your own merits now.</p>
<p>@OMGjustin</p>
<p>While I sympathize with OP, I don’t fault his school’s administration for reporting this in the least. They have a rule – if you cheat it goes on your pernanent record and is reported to colleges when you apply. If you get caught after you have been admitted, we notify the school that admitted you.</p>
<p>The school is saying that Cheating will not be tolerated and that if you do there will be consequences. That is called having Standards.</p>
<p>BTW – Cornell has a Code of Academic Integrity (as do most schools). This should be required reading, if not for all applicants, certainly for all incoming students.</p>
<p>[Cornell</a> University - CUinfo - Code of Academic Integrity](<a href=“http://cuinfo.cornell.edu/Academic/AIC.html]Cornell”>http://cuinfo.cornell.edu/Academic/AIC.html)</p>
<p>It’s hard for me to guess whether or not this will end up with you being rescinded. I’d be a little surprised, but it wouldn’t blow my mind either. Keep in mind, if you did ANY of this at Cornell, it would be a potentially serious academic integrity violation and you could be kicked out. Colleges in general try to be strict about this stuff. That said, in college, unintentional violations of academic integrity (such as not knowing how to cite properly) will usually result in the professor explaining how to cite in the future.</p>
<p>Outcome: Rescinded.</p>
<p>Expected, but also surprising at the same time. Expected as Cornell’s reputation is also on the line (if we still accept this kid, it seems as if do not take academic dishonesty seriously). Surprising because they rescinded an early decision student with an otherwise spotless, perfect record, along with the dreary fact that I have no other options right now.</p>
<p>FOR future cc’ers and other bright kids who have made it into their dream college: if you still want to get good grades and test scores, but lack the motivation that once existed due to the elation+“i can relax feeling” after being accepted… DO NOT CHEAT in an attempt to still achieve excellency with a lower amount of work… In fact, if it came down to failing that assignment, go ahead, I would fail it instead. Honestly, I could have still managed all A’s and passed IB with high scores even with lower IA scores. I just really cannot believe in the fact that I just had to achieve perfectionism even though I really didn’t want it or needed it.</p>
<p>I am sure one weight-listed person will soon be happier, kudos to him/her. And to the other cheaters who’ve made it in into their colleges: nice job for averting getting caught this time, just make sure you stop NOW or you’ll get boned like me. </p>
<p>And now for my rambling… (Thought-worthy posts were above, below lies ranting and complaining)!!!</p>
<p>1) The second incident, I believe, involved a BREACH in privacy. The second teacher explicitly told me that after the meeting was held for academic dishonesty, she had asked the first teacher who these kids were (yea i know, a bunch of kids got caught). Unfortunately, she carelessly told the second teacher, leading to this horrid situation right now.</p>
<p>Really, what happened to “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. Ironically, during the first disciplinary meeting, the first teacher told me that if one of my friends asked for help on the IA, I have every right to deny such privileges (But, really, what kind of friend would really do that? So I went ahead and helped him. Sadly, that person’s IA had parts that was similar to mine = pwned). </p>
<p>So where is the irony? Well, basically my situation manifested itself in a slightly different form. I’ll organize the parallels below:</p>
<p>1a) The second teacher asked “Who were these kids?” → My friend asked “Can I see your IA?”…Both questions should not have been asked in the first place as they obviously put the responder in an incredibly awkward situation.
1b) The first teacher saids “O, well it was this kid, derp herp!” → My saying “O, yea I’ll email it to u”… Both answers were flawed under different principles. The first because of privacy issues. The second because of academic integrity.</p>
<p>Interestingly, this violation in privacy came to my realization only recently, and hence, for my belligerent whelping. I can only hope that the first teacher did not tell every other teacher at my school or the second teacher did not proceed to tell all her faculty friends about her recent, enlightening discovery. If they did, I might have to consider some sort of lawsuit… jk… im not that extreme…yet still a possibility. </p>
<p>2) One of the reasons why my counselor had to proceed with the actions was because “ignoring or turning a blind-eye to this situation will blacklist this high school forever”. Even though this statement is correct is all of its intent, I find it provoking to say the least that this high school’s reputation was ruined nevertheless. They appeared to not even take notice of the ex-post-facto nature of my second disciplinary violation (i.e. pretend as if you were held responsible for academic dishonesty your freshmen year in high school…that’s of course, only after 4 years will this incident be revealed to your COLLEGE guidance counselor… its just an intermittent break, right?.. this way, the only lessons you learned were the ones that were too late to realistically fix/avoid). Yea, I know, exaggerated to a far extent, but it proves my point. </p>
<p>Never really knew the consequences of cheating (I see it everyday: kids peeking on other kid’s tests and bragging about it later; kid’s parents complaining to teachers about mental disability problems or “miscalculations of grades”= miraculous extra credit + exempted tests and assignments, of course… they proceed on to brag about their academic excellency and their uberness that pervades in every fact of their lives… So a flawed conclusion is often drawn: that is, cheating is okay in this school.)… Leading to the sole flaw in my character. The only flaw to appear and at the worst time, after college applications and during senior year. Okay, I guess thats cool…</p>
<p>3) Trying to convince yourself that this was the best choice EVER is not only redundant (yes, for the last f-ing time, I will NEVER cheat again. So trying to pin an ex-post-facto incident on me will not reinforce this lesson any more than the previous already had), but also quite frankly misleading in its intent (Do you really care about me? Or do you just care about yourself – “o, I can’t possibly have recommended this LIFE-LONG cheater into Cornell, I MUST CONDEMN HIM NOW>> AHH!!! JAJAJAJA!!!” – Or do you just care about the reputation of your school – “I will take every effort to make sure every college knows about this!!! This way ppl will never regard this high school as a plop!!” – Or do you just care about your teaching reputation “If I don’t report him now, someone will find out sooner or later, let’s teach him another lesson now…even though he has already endured the most dreadful chapter in his life already… this way, I will not be held accounted, and my teaching reputation will be saved”… CONGRATS. I really, really think I have learned my lesson. Anyways, the only life you are willing to allow to self-destruct is an immature and misguided teenager. One who really needed a second chance and not a drop-kick to the face. </p>
<p>As a final note, I extend my gratitude to all those who have helped me endure this gut-wrenching process, including my parents, my friends, and my imaginary teddy-bear friend, that can endure any crippling punches I throw at him when I am ****ed and endure all my sobs when I am sad. Maybe one day, I can light-heartedly look back at myself and say “ROFL, you were quite the champ bank then. You really defied all odds to be here now heh?” Really, what I am really trying to say is: go ahead, take the risk, these are the events in your life that you will remember the most. If anything, you’ll be conscious of any mistakes to be apprehended, if any, and you’ll be glad of the adventure that it will take you. Break the societal norm and do something risky. Of course, this does not include cheating. DUH?</p>
<p>sorry to hear bud.</p>
<p>where you going next year then?</p>
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<p>Have no idea. I dont have an option right now. My parents are still trying to get over this. Maybe community college? I just feel like years of hard work has been for nothin. Not to be a braggart, but with 10+ AP test scores of all 5s, 4.0 GPA (for all of high school, thats if I can survive for the next few weeks), superb EXs (including anything from captains of sports teams to science clubs), a killer-list of awards, high SAT I and II scores, I just really feel, well, quite useless. But, whatever, we’ll see where life takes me next. </p>
<p>And for those who have similar depressive feelings. Chill. I have decently recovered from this traumatizing event.</p>
<p>also, nice video @OMGItsJustin</p>
<p>ty</p>
<p>It is not a waste. This is what you should do:</p>
<p>Go to community college for one year. Get a 4.0. Be the best. Get involved in extracurriculars that you are passionate about. Build strong relationships with your professors. </p>
<p>During the spring semester, apply to transfer for the Fall 2014 semester. Transferring requires the entire college app process (recommendations, transcripts, commonapp, etc). If you work hard, you can really do anything. Good luck.</p>
<p>Is this on your permanent record in terms of high school transcripts/application materials? If not, and you can get your teachers to not report it next time around (a lot of persuasion required), why don’t you just take a gap year?</p>
<p>You could take a year off, do some traveling/volunteering/something constructive, and then apply to colleges again and bury this under the rug?</p>
<p>You had 10 ap’s, high GPA and test scores yet you still cheated? Do you think that missing that one question or getting a lesser grade diminish you in some way? Ick, sorry but you deserved to get recinded. Take a gap year or go to CC, and then re apply and come clean with a sincere reply as to why you did what you did. Good luck.</p>
<p>Good advice guys, thanks.</p>
<p>@ GA2012MOM </p>
<p>Yea exactly, didnt really need to cheat in the first place. I think I just got so used to getting superb grades that even when I really did not need it, I just felt as if I had to get it. The only thing different was the fact that I was less willing to do work. </p>
<p>So, yea, I deserved it. And I will probably never apply to Cornell again. I can possibly try another school in the coming years.</p>
<p>Wow, stuff is serious in the USA (I’m in Canada). I never made up data for any of my labs. I never ran out of time; they were fairly easy; and they weren’t worth many marks. I know for a fact that if I did make up data points in a biology lab or something, the teacher wouldn’t have given a damn. If they had found out, they might have been a little irritated and request that I come at lunch and redo a portion of the lab, but they really wouldn’t have cared. I mean, in the tenth grade when I was in AP Biology, I remember the teacher catching a student directly copying from another on the unit exam, and the only discipline he got was “BRETT, KEEP YOUR EYES ON YOUR OWN PAPER.” He was allowed to hand the exam in. You guys take stuff pretty seriously!</p>
<p>I know. Moreover, the fact that the labs are so redundant in their intents makes it so bsing data is encouraged. Perhaps, there exists a cultural lapse between different cultures. Or its just that when it comes to IB, we have to report disciplinary violations while we turn a blind eye to helicopter-mothers who more or less plea for a grade change for their “challenged” daughter or son. Pathetic, and probably the most deceitful/cunning ways of CHEATING. Yet, it goes on everyday. Yea, so screw your “academic integrity” policies. Though appropriate and required for any institution, and very applicable in my case, I would have to say… if u want ppl to take cheating seriously, address all CHEATING and not just the occasional cases of “special” importance.</p>