Governor's budget has appox. 15% UW Madison cut

<p>In exchange UW gets freedoms as already discussed. Rest of UW schools get smaller 11% cut but no freedoms. Wisconsin Covenant also cut.</p>

<p>Walker's</a> proposal cuts UW System budget - JSOnline</p>

<p>My initial reaction is OUCH. Tha's really at the upper end of what I expected and what UW could absorb without major problems. More</p>

<p><a href="http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/education/university/article_c3489fee-4449-11e0-921b-001cc4c03286.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/education/university/article_c3489fee-4449-11e0-921b-001cc4c03286.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>When Governor Walker says he wants everyone to share the pain, that’s PAIN. Check out what he’s proposing for K-12 school districts.</p>

<p>[Budget</a> would strip state education funding by $470 million next year](<a href=“http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/education/local_schools/article_de7c67c0-444c-11e0-bfd0-001cc4c03286.html]Budget”>Budget cuts hundreds of millions of dollars from schools)</p>

<p>Compared to the UW the schoools have done well the last decade. teachers get raises every year while at UW there have been none for about half the decade and the last 2 years have seen actual cuts through furlough days. Same for the tech colleges. Time they feel the same pain and share in the cuts.</p>

<p>I’m more concerned with how fast they’ll raise the OOS tuition, hopefully not into the UM-Ann Arbor strata. But I’m afraid that’s where it’s headed…</p>

<p>Assume 10%/year with more fin aid. That’s IF they get the freedoms they want. Worse case is no freedom and tuition capped by state. THAT would mean steep cuts in programs and decline.</p>

<p>One strategy that could be followed, depending on the freedoms granted, is to boost OOS percentages above the current 25% cap. This could enhance revenue while limiting the need to increase tuition per head. U of MI, for example, is currently 38% OOS, U of VA 29%.</p>

<p>I’d be very careful about biting into that one right now. Walker is already way out in front on this and that would really rile the natives. Now if they are getting 15% less it might stand that 15% fewer seats should go to instate kids.</p>

<p>I am in wait and see mode. The Governor gets to appoint 11 of the 20 members of the Board for a new UW Madison public authority. If the past is any indication of future behavior Walker may appoint 11 members of the flat earth society. No more science. No more humanities. Everyone must wear their underwear on the outside of their pants etc… Who knows.</p>

<p>However one way to minimize rocking the voter boat would be to eliminate MN-WI reciprocity, effectively converting the 12% of students who pay MN tuition to full OOS-level tuition (and probably losing many MN students whose spots would be filled from other states). In this way no in-state student loses a spot. My quick calculations suggest this move would be worth $35-40 million per year once a full set of classes have been enrolled. And the Chancellor moves closer to what I suspect is her goal to make UW a little more MI-like.</p>

<p>Much as I hate to say it (for I am a MN resident with high-school aged children as well as a Badger alum) this might very well be where things are headed.</p>

<p>That makes some sense. Exporting kids to Minn when some UW campuses are under-filled makes less sense today than it did when UW imported more Minn kids then it sent away. Now Wisconsin has to send Minn a big check. But I liked getting all the Minny kids down to Madison and converting them to Badger fans. Meanwhile most of the Wisconsin kids going up to UMinn keep wearing their Badger stuff.</p>

<p>BM’s statement on the budget. Obviously she was well prepared for this scenario. Better than some of the previous Chancellor’s who could not sit down with the Governor and make a deal. </p>

<p>[Chancellor</a> Martin?s statement on Governor Walker?s budget proposal (March 1, 2011)](<a href=“http://www.news.wisc.edu/19049]Chancellor”>Chancellor Martin’s statement on Governor Walker’s budget proposal)</p>

<p>This article from the Minnesota Daily (U of MN’s student newspaper) indicates that reciprocity agreement is not going to change:</p>

<p>[Walker</a> seeks to split UW colleges | mndaily.com - Serving the University of Minnesota Community Since 1900](<a href=“http://www.mndaily.com/2011/02/28/walker-seeks-split-uw-colleges]Walker”>http://www.mndaily.com/2011/02/28/walker-seeks-split-uw-colleges)</p>

<p>As a Minnesota parent with a daughter who has been accepted for next fall at Madison, I am hoping for some certainty–but realizing that it is really early in the game for that. Nonetheless, we will be attending “Your UW Day” for admitted students March 21st–and will be very interested to hear about possible changes in tuition and reciprocity.</p>

<p>MNFlyer:</p>

<p>Of course no one knows what will happen, but I’d bet you and your D will be “safe”. I doubt any changes will occur that will affect the incoming class and I also would expect current students to be grandfathered in if reciprocity should go. Preserving the expected financial climate for committed students is usually how things are done.</p>

<p>they should take in more OOS kids then…15% more…i think 50/50 would be a good mix</p>

<p>no oos kids want to go to the other UW’s</p>

<p>Wisconsin Covenant was originally funded with $40 million from Great Lakes Higher Education Corp several years ago - I wonder how Walker can eliminate this program since this was not state money. Maybe existing Covenant scholars (registering through Sept 2011) will be supported with these funds until depleted.</p>

<p>I think there was a state match. The Morgridges’ founded scholarships not impacted as they were all private $$$.</p>

<p>Strike another blow to UW’s diversity efforts . . .</p>

<p>[The</a> ‘Badger Advocates’: Corporate Advocates, Not UW-Madison Advocates | The Nation](<a href=“http://www.thenation.com/blog/159113/badger-advocates-corporate-advocates-not-uw-madison-advocates]The”>http://www.thenation.com/blog/159113/badger-advocates-corporate-advocates-not-uw-madison-advocates)</p>

<p>Discusses an element of the spinning-off efforts.</p>

<p>And the Nation’s point is?? You should lobby Republicans with some old line Maoists? Stupid article.</p>

<p>For those who think ending reciprocity will free up significantly more OOS spots with the extra tuition money- it works both ways. Many Wis residents who opted for U of Minn will instead opt for UW, some Minn residents will opt to pay OOS tuition to UW. The net result won’t be that much more in available spots or money collected for OOS tuition.</p>

<p>It depends what they do with the 10% of slots that now go to Minn kids. They could make them all OOS slots, all instate, or something in between. If they go with making them all OOS the kids going to UM will have to compete for the slots allocated to instate and many may not get in. I’d expect a few % to still go to Minn kids now paying full OOS tuition. So it’s just a decision matrix right now with different outcomes (Tuition income) for different combinations of in and OOS and reciprocity students. Who knows if it will even be on the table but I suspect it will be in the next 10 years.</p>