<p>It is common knowlege that there are individuals out there with a solid grade point average that do poorly on standardized tests.</p>
<p>Here's something interesting to ponder. Why don't some kids who are in Calculus AB as juniors and take notes, listen in math class, do their homework diligently, do well on tests, get good grades in their math classes do well on the SAT math???? It's almost like an oxymoron for me. How can you do integrals but not solve basic algebraic equations???? Here's what I think is happening.</p>
<p>The type of individuals that I described above are more methodical and cannot apply their brains when familiar content within their grasp is contorted a bit. Look people, the simple fact of the matter is, in real life you are not going to be given an equation and get asked to evuate its derivative or its integral. You need to apply your mind and how to work with the data or information with the given constraints on the system. Life's not going to clue you in directly to the solution of any dilema that you may have, that responsibilty lies on your shoulders.</p>
<p>To make a long story short, if you are in an advanced math or english class, then you are indeed capable of getting the corresponding SAT score. If you can't, then I suggest community college. Inability to apply one's mind to perform well on a basic standardized tests( well at least for students that take challenging math and english classes) doesn't bode well for a higher-level institution, where <em>suprise suprise</em> you have to use higher level thinking. However, thats just my personal opinion. Feel free to ostracize it at your own convenience.</p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p>"To make a long story short, if you are in an advanced math or english class, then you are indeed capable of getting the corresponding SAT score. If you can't, then I suggest community college."</p>
<p>A bit harsh and presumptuous, no?</p>
<p>All of his posts are presumptuous.</p>
<p>"The type of individuals that I described above are more methodical and cannot apply their brains when familiar content within their grasp is contorted a bit. Look people, the simple fact of the matter is, in real life you are not going to be given an equation and get asked to evuate its derivative or its integral. You need to apply your mind and how to work with the data or information with the given constraints on the system. Life's not going to clue you in directly to the solution of any dilema that you may have, that responsibilty lies on your shoulders."</p>
<p>well life doesn't have a time limit and a certain number of questions does it?</p>
<p>does it irk u that these kids can at least do simple derivatives and integrals but u can't? i've seen ur post on those "hard" derivative problems which only "math geniuses" can do, yet u bash on others for not doing well on SAT math? Those derivatives were definitely "familiar content within your grasp contorted a bit". Next time, think twice before u bash others who aren't good test takers. Maybe u should be the one going to community college.</p>
<p>Yeah, only community college students rely on others to do their homework.</p>
<p>There are also students who have excellent standardized test scores who lack work ethic...something very important for college work, I assure you. Sometimes the ability to do homework diligently is more important than other abilities.</p>
<p>just a thought</p>
<p>how are you supposed to build work ethic? i can ace the sat like literally ace but i dont have good work ethic. and i want to be a doctor so i really need to develop really good work ethic really soon. i just dont feel like working sometimes</p>
<p>Well . . . do you ace your schoolwork without much effort? Maybe you're just someone who rises to the challenge, ie the more you're challenged, the harder you'll work to achieve your goal and maintain a standard. But work ethic is really something that, at this age, you'll need to determine for yourself.</p>
<p>The best way to improve your work ethic is by working more.</p>
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<p>lol, I love it. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>An excellent article "The</a> Calculus Trap" discusses how high school students can find more academic challenge in math, and thus learn more "work ethic." This is an important part of preparing for the top colleges.</p>
<p>man my problem is im being challenged enough i believe...but im not idk working?? it was never like this until this year -JUNIOR YEAR - i used to work really hard but for some reason i dont work as hard anymore - and im taking bc calc and ap physics and stuff....i know i can be the top kid in the class but i dont try
i donbt think im the ONLY kid with this problem
yea i just have to work more...think i need to concentrate with exactly what i want out of life because that plays a big part</p>
<p>O.o; Ack, I'm not good with Standardized Tests stuff, but I manage to get good grades by working hard. :/ I don't know about going to community college just because I didn't do too well on Standadized Tests. --; Gee, not everyone as a perfect brain like yours, Man<em>on</em>Fire.</p>
<p>man<em>on</em>fire...Do you honestly believe the SATs measure higher level thinking? How pathetic. I hope you don't think three hours early on a Saturday morning filling in bubbles measures how smart you are. I know brilliant people that can't even get above average. For some its the time crunch, I personally do much better when tests are not multiple choice. If you had any sense you would know that SATs do not have any connection with how well you perform in and out of the classroom...maybe thats why they are changing it!?</p>
<p>Anyways, when you are out of college no one will ever ask you about your SATs again (wonder why? Oh wait! It's because they want to look at your classes, passions, etc.). No one will ever talk about them ever again, and those who do are a**holes.</p>
<p>jim has 24 blue socks and 54 red socks....=higher level thinking?</p>
<p>(laughs...you are sad)</p>
<p>"Anyways, when you are out of college no one will ever ask you about your SATs again (wonder why? Oh wait! It's because they want to look at your classes, passions, etc.). No one will ever talk about them ever again, and those who do are a**holes."</p>
<p>Actually, quite a lot of entry-level jobs (i.e. the ones you go to straight after college) ask for SAT scores...</p>
<p>"man<em>on</em>fire...Do you honestly believe the SATs measure higher level thinking? How pathetic. "</p>
<p>Wow, I love the logic of the ppl who are bashing man<em>on</em>fire. If the SAT is a low-level test, and you do badly on it - what does that say about you??!?!</p>
<p>What's the point of being able to differentiate when you can't figure out the solution to 2x+4=0 ?</p>
<p>What's the point of assigning so much value to the SAT when HYP could fill their freshman classes dozens of times with nothing but top scorers?</p>
<p>"What's the point of assigning so much value to the SAT when HYP could fill their freshman classes dozens of times with nothing but top scorers?"</p>
<p>Well, that makes SAT's even more important, since if you get a relatively low score you won't be able to compete.</p>
<p>You tell 'em, khalid...my boyfriend once went to an interview for a computer programming summer job and the first question out of the interviewer's mouth was "What was your SAT score?" It's a common question to hear for interviews in finance, too.</p>
<p>It's definitely a fact that for a certain echelon of jobs an SAT score is a criterion for hiring. You may or may not desire that kind of job, but some employers will ask college graduates what their SAT scores were.</p>