<p>well they all said she was in their top two or three so I don’t think she needs luck</p>
<p>A friend of mine was a tennis recruit to harvard. He had a 4.02 weighted gpa and unweighted of 3.4 ish I believe</p>
<p>Oh believe me, she needs luck on her side also! They all say a lot of things, until it is time to put up or shut up. You are in eighth grade, when you are a little older and more mature, you will learn that not everything can be taken at face value. There are plenty of top student-athletes out there who were “in their top two or three” who learned this the hard way. Again, best of luck to you sister!</p>
<p>I may not be “mature” enough but if you how good she is you’d know she doesn’t need luck</p>
<p>Well, be sure to let us know when she has her Likely Letter in hand. It will be helpful for others who have similar stats.</p>
<p>fishymom - I have to agree with you on everything you said. </p>
<p>golfcrewxctrack - I wrote something very similar to fishymom, but didn’t post because I didn’t want to entertain what you were saying. From personal experience, it doesn’t matter how good she is - this is a game that requires a significant amount of luck. I don’t know what sport your sister plays, but I’m a rower and was at the top of all of those recruiting lists as well. So, so, so much changes between now and senior fall. I’m at the top of my sport, and yet my AI (higher than your sisters) just didn’t fit in on some of the rosters. There’s a girl, who is widely recognized as the best in my sport (she has a 7:03 2k) and has been on the Junior National Team for two or three years who, like your sister and I, was at the top of lists. She took an official to H, but because she didn’t mesh well with the team wasn’t recruited. </p>
<p>Everything seems great now - solid and sure, but wait for the period of time between officials and actually getting the likely letter. Lot’s of things change overnight, so luck is something she will need. Coaches need to balance AI’s, personalities, and qualities in each person in order to create a cohesive class… I hope that all works out with her, and PM me if you have any questions.</p>
<p>Bruno15, thanks for telling your story. It is important for all recruits to hear again, until you have something, you’ve got nothing! Good luck to you!</p>
<p>So true fishy and bruno…
Teens are athletes with potential adn coaches are always looking for the next best thing…so until the student has that LL, they have nothing.</p>
<p>Sure, things may happen, but it’s more than complete luck or randomness. If all coaches tell you you’re in their top 2 or 3, and you end up not getting recruited, something other than “bad luck” is going on. Most coaches are straightforward because they can’t afford not to. Word would go around very quickly if a coach lies repeatedly.</p>
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<p>Of course it is not complete luck or randomness! And I wholeheartedly agree that there must be more to the story if a recruit is told they are in the top 2 or 3 at multiple schools and does not end up being recruited. But I still maintain that luck plays a part in it all, no matter how great the athlete is. Or in some cases, thinks they are, haha.</p>
<p>i gotta agree with beenthere, I know the top female athletes from the recruiting class 2 years ago, they’re freshman in college now (3 stanford, 1 princeton, 2 harvard, 1 yale and all from the same summer team). there’s top of your sport and then there’s the top. And for these girls with 4.0, 2100+, and winning international events they had their choice of HYPS cal, ucla, usc, etc…no one rejected them. </p>
<p>that said, there are exceptions, i heard one top school had a blow out this year, but those are exceptions. for the most part top athletes with top academics have very, very good opportunities. well earned opportunities!</p>
<p>^ Agreed…top athletes WITH Top Academics have great opportunities.</p>
<p>Great athletes with good academics or
Good athletes with great academcics may not have such a smooth course.</p>
<p>There are more teens than there are slots…
and
If coaches promise something and can’t deliver…the question why not is probably pretty complicated.</p>
<p>Pacheight - I know of what blowout you’re talking about - I was part of it. Happily, however, I’m going to row at a top Ivy team next year. </p>
<p>And, that said, I agree that it would be odd for you to be at the top of lists and then not recruited at all. Fortunately that didn’t happen to me, but there were other girls who took a risk EA with me and unfortunately have nowhere to go. For the record, we all did have lots of AP’s, great GPA’s and test scores. Mine were on the lower end which is why, in the beginning, I didn’t fit due to my AI and which is why I didn’t get in EA. However as I said earlier, personality plays a huge part of the process. That’s why the girl I spoke of was turned down by H, despite being part of said summer team. Best of luck to all your children!</p>
<p>“personality plays a huge part of the process”</p>
<p>that’s interesting! there was a thread on this subject last year, essentially the question of can existing college athletes put the kabash on a recruit if they don’t like them. can they influence the coach?</p>
<p>i don’t believe coaches are rejecting athletes because of personalities. And it’s hard to believe a recruit would act like a jerk to a coach so much that the coach rejects them.</p>
<p>I think every program and every experience is different, but in my personal experience I found that great athletes were turned away because they didn’t mesh or had reputations of being bad teammates. Two girls from the aforementioned summer team were really ill-behaved on an official and were turned down because of that, and because of what the team came to think of them. As one coach put it, “It’s not a popularity contest, but what the team says matters to me.” As long as you’re not awful it’s not an end-all be-all, though one of my officials took a turn because the coach and I didn’t have any chemistry. So like I said, every experience is different - this is just what I’ve found to be true for me! :)</p>
<p>Agree with Bruno-after a visit, the team at some schools is asked by the coach their opinion of the “fit” of the recruit. It definitely plays a part. No one wants a whiner, or a show-off…</p>
<p>Coaches got current players’ feedback at NESCAC schools S visited, and from stories he heard while there about recruits in past seasons who were notoriously bad fits and so didn’t get the coach’s support, team/recruit chemistry matters.</p>
<p>If a recruit is known to current athletes from other experiences like high school/prep school/camps, and have made enemies, those things can come back to haunt them. Even if they are on “best behavior” during the visit, if one of the old hands gives a bad report, game over.</p>
<p>^^the athletes I know don’t say anything negative about the recruits to their coaches but the coach can interpret how they feel based on how enthusiastic they are (or are not) about a particular recruit. However, attitude problems only go so far, I know the Ty Cobb of this years recruiting class and everyone knows she’s a problem, yet everyone recruited her. why, because she’s that good!</p>
<p>I am sure a lot of this depends on the sport. In my daughter’s sport, one bad apple can indeed spoil the whole bunch, or boat. I have experienced this as a coach (different sport) myself, and I will tell you that I would never choose an athlete who was known to be a problem, no matter how good they were. Often, these athletes are difficult to coach, so there is little to no improvement. And the drama they cause within the team hurts the performance of all the other athletes. I would rather have an athlete with a great attitude and willingness to learn any day. An athlete like that may well end up better than the problem athlete who was “that good” at the beginning of a college career.</p>