Group these schools by selectivity

<p>Washu
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Chicago
Northwestern
Emory
Tufts</p>

<p>thanks alot.</p>

<p>Collegeboard.com</p>

<p>They have acceptance rates for every university.</p>

<p>Acceptance rates are very misleading. For example, Chicago is an amazing school but you wouldn't know it by their acceptance rate. A better way to gauge selectivity is the average SAT score.</p>

<p>If I had to rank those schools in terms of selectivity, Brown would definitely be 1st. 2nd-8th can really go in any order.</p>

<p>acceptance rates arent what im looking for. i believe the above post basicalyl explained why. UChicago is the poster boy for the limited value of acceptance rates as measures of selectivity.</p>

<p>I've looked at a couple sites that rank schools in terms of selectivity, and they all say something different. For example, Thick Envelope has them ranked like this:</p>

<ol>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Washington-St. Louis</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Emory</li>
</ol>

<p>However, Princeton Review has them like this:</p>

<ol>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Washington-St. Louis</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
</ol>

<p>Isn't that the definition of selectivity? How selective they are in choosing students in the context of their applicant pool? I guess you're looking for a more objective comparison. I'd say...</p>

<p>Brown
Chicago
JHU
Cornell
Northwestern
WashU
Tufts
Emory</p>

<p>Then again, my list is subject to change by the half hour. :P</p>

<p>wow theone, your list seems way off to me.</p>

<p>i wouldve figured northwestern above chicago...washu above most of em, etc</p>

<p>i guess they are all one the same level except for brown.</p>

<p>i always thought tufts was easier to get into than the rest of these schools too.</p>

<p>Chicago & Northwestern have very different approaches to selecting students. Chicago places a huge emphasis on the essay, while NW is more grade-oriented.</p>

<p>For example, a borderline top 25% student with an amazing essay would probably get into Chicago, but not NW.</p>

<p>However, a top 15% student with a mediocre essay may get rejected by Chicago but accepted at NW.</p>

<p>very true...but if someone wanted to place these schools into these categories:</p>

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<p>what would they be? Would they all be roughly the same except for Brown?</p>

<p>They're all roughly the same, save Brown. </p>

<p>Of the other 7, I know that Chicago & JHU are less grade-oriented than the others. WUSTL & Emory are probably the most grade-oriented of the 7.</p>

<p>Brown</p>

<p>Cornell</p>

<p>Hopkins
Northwestern
Chicago
Washu</p>

<p>Emory</p>

<p>Tufts</p>

<p>selectivity based on SAT 75th percentile
Chicago 1510
Brown 1500
Northwestern 1480
Washington U St Louis 1480
Cornell 1470
JHU 1470
Emory 1460
Tufts 1420</p>

<p>Within each university, some schools are more selective than others. For example, at Cornell, Arts & Sciences and Engineering are more selective than the University overall.</p>

<p>Using the SAT 75th percentile might be more useful to the OP if you used stats for the '08 instead of '07.</p>

<p>I'd love to know why a lot of people seem to automatically rank School A: 42% acceptance rate, 1300-1460 SAT range over School B: 27% acceptance rate, 1290-1470 SAT range.</p>

<p>This is how I ranked these schools:Washu
Brown
Cornell</p>

<p>Hopkins
Northwestern</p>

<p>Chicago
Tufts</p>

<p>Emory</p>

<p>Actually the 2008 stats for incoming class at Chicago were 25% 75% - 1360 and 1490 for average SAT of 1425 which most likely is highest of this list. Incoming class saw 25% having SAT of 1500 or higher. Acceptance rate also was below 40%.
For academic rigor I would rank these schools as follows
Chicago
Brown
Cornell
Wash U
Hopkins
Northwestern
Tufts
Emory
Of course not everyone goes to college for the academics so another ranking of these schools might be different.</p>

<p>if chicago is more holistic in its approach to admissions, why are the SAT scores higher than all the other schools? Is it just a result of the self-selective applicants that Chicago has?</p>

<p>What is it that you are trying to achieve by understanding the selectivity of these schools? They are all highly selective and the differences are probably not that great.</p>

<p>Are you trying to narrow down which ones to apply to? I wouldn't base that on selectivity. I would base that on which one has the attributes you are looking for in a school, which is based on your own preferences, not some subjective or objective measure of selectivity.</p>

<p>If you are simply trying to assess your chances, that is a difficult thing to do. If your worry is that you will apply to all of them and not get into any, I would apply to a more secure safety school. These are all strong schools, where admission is unlikely to be a guarantee for most students.</p>

<p>You guys are so wrong about Tufts it has a lower acceptance rate than Cornell, JHU, Northwestern, Emory, and Chicago.</p>

<p>Selectivity:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Brown </p></li>
<li><p>Cornell</p></li>
<li><p>Northwestern</p></li>
<li><p>Washu</p></li>
<li><p>Hopkins</p></li>
<li><p>Chicago</p></li>
<li><p>Emory </p></li>
<li><p>Tufts</p></li>
</ol>

<p>There is alot more at play than acceptance rate or even SAT scores. WashU throws out merit scholarships at high scorers, elevating their numbers while Brown turns down top scorers all the time. Overall here is how I have seen things play out. Regardless of acceptance rate, Tufts is lower than all of these schools.</p>

<p>My personal opinion, not really based on statistics but personal experience:</p>

<p>Brown
Chicago
Washu
Northwestern
Cornell
Hopkins
Tufts
Emory</p>