Hamilton vs Connecticut College... and some miscellaneous questions

Hey all,
I was recently accepted to both Hamilton and Conn college (and WL at Bates and Wesleyan, which I have already decided I am not inclined to fight for). I am hoping that I can get some objective insight about which college is better for me. I am leaning towards Hamilton. Both colleges gave me almost exactly the same price tag, so money is no object. Please indicate any bias.

So, here are the unique selling points for each school (for me, personally of course):

Hamilton, which I visited last Summer:

-First and foremost, Hamilton’s status as “the writing college” and the option of a creative writing major. I have a particular passion for writing and can see myself becoming a copywriter (like Mad Men, of course).

  • One of the best writing and speaking student center in the country- this is particularly attractive to me because of my aforementioned writing interest, and also intention on pursuing debate activities.
  • Hamilton has a dinning hall that looks like it’s straight outta Hogwarts, and a Harry Potter enthusiasts club!
  • Hamilton (please no arguments over this one, guys) is generally more well respected and known by LAC enthusiasts, (though I know in general LACs are generally not well known: que just about everyone pretending to recognize the school name). Though I try not to be an elitist, I generally like the idea of attending a more prestigious college. I also wonder is Hamilton’s prestige might give me an edge to get into, say Ivy grad schools. That was so many parentheses that I feel like Mrs. Dalloway!
  • From my research, the student culture at Hamilton seems to be relatively diverse, with some students being very preppy, and others being pretty artsy. I lean more preppy, myself, yet I really like the idea of social diversity, as many of my friends are more artsy types.
  • As one of the oldest LACs, Hamilton has huge endowment money and a large, wealthy, and active alumni network. This could be incredibly helpful as I look for a job post-graduation. I am also inclined to believe that Hamilton would perhaps pay for more events and other potential expenses.
  • The open curriculum, of course!

Conn, which I have yet to visit (but I am planning on attending accepted students’ day):

  • There is a train station right in New London that can take you to Boston and NYC in about 2 hours both ways. I love both cities, though I know that I probably would not have a lot of time to visit them during the semester. Also, my house is about 2 hours away from both cities, so I can easily visit them over breaks.
  • Conn is renowned for a strong arts program. Though I by no means have an intention to seriously pursue art, I can see myself taking some fine arts classes, as I do dabble in painting and drawing, if I say so myself.
  • Conn seems to have a more lively party scene. Though, I am certainly not a party girl, I do think being surrounded by work-hard, play-hard types would help soothe my academic anxiety. From what I hear, Hamilton is more work-hard, play-occasionally.
  • Conn is much more convenient for travel purposes as it is about 3.5 hrs closer too my house, however it is less than an hour away from home, which may be too close, I am not really sure...
  • Students get to schedule their own exams, which is pretty cool.

Disadvantages and Concerns:

Hamilton:
*note: rural Clinton is NOT a disadvantage to me, as I am sure campus is buzzing with activity

  • I read some post about how Hamilton is incredibly “racist against white people,” which of course is probably a bitter exaggeration, however, this does concern me mildly.
  • I have read a post about how the career center is not very helpful, which again could be one bitter person’s experience

Conn:
-since Con does not offer a creative writing major, I would likely major in English Lit.

  • My primary concern about Conn: I am concerned about the new-agey three year old “Connections” program. This essentially provides more structure to the student’s course selection, leading them along a “pathway” in which they seek to answer one essential question. Not sure if I would love this or hate it.
  • Conn has a lot more requirements, requiring student to write a thesis, present a capstone project, and complete an internship (applause for that beautiful parallel structure). Not sure if this is encouraging or stifling, as generally I am less enthusiastic about things that I am required to do, than things I elect to do. I know the vast majority of Hamilton students complete at least two internships anyways. And, of course I recognize the immense value of participating in an internship before graduation.
  • A camel is perhaps not the most preferable mascot. Then again, a “continental” is rather interesting, as well.

Miscellaneous:

  • Hamilton’s AP credit policy is well… unique… any thoughts?
  • I have yet to research and compare the study-abroad programs of both schools. If anyone has any thoughts about where study-abroad is easier (financially and in other ways), that would be great as I am highly inclined to study abroad
  • I see myself likely as a double major, pairing creative writing with English lit (at Hamilton), or perhaps Psyc (I know Hamilton excels in the social sciences), or maybe even Economics, to make myself more marketable in a business-type career. At Conn, I would pair these options with an English Lit major.
  • please compare career centers
  • Please compare ability to do work-study on both campuses, something I do not particularly like the idea of, but is in my best financial interest.
  • Sports culture at both schools? From what I hear, Hamilton is more sporty than Conn. As a non-athletic person, I am not sure how I feel about this.
  • Compare dorms?

If you read this entire post, congrats, you are the Clark Kent of College Confidential. My hero!

First off great job on getting into both colleges! I personally want to recommend Hamilton! The campus is gorgeous and it seems to be a great fit for you. Hamilton is no more “racist against white people” than any other northern selective liberal arts college so don’t let that bother you. You won’t find ANY issue being white. Also the career center is absolutely fine and they have connections in many fields. In my opinion Conn Coll is a bit less prestigious but the students are a bit more wealthy and less diverse.

Congratulations on having two such wonderful choices!

You will be able to have a similarly fabulous education and social/extracurricular experience at either school.

Visiting both schools is a good idea, as ultimately you can choose based on general vibe and “what feels best,” as you can get a similar education at either.

Both have gorgeous campuses. Conn Coll has stone buildings surrounding huge lawns, an arboretum, and a view of the Long Island Sound. Hamilton has a large and varied campus, with old-fashioned charming brown buildings in part and more modern buildings in part, and a forested area known as the Root Glen.

Both will have all the traditional benefits of a top small liberal arts college- small classes, tight communities, close relationships with professors, lots of research opportunities.

Both are in the NESCAC league. You mentioned a concern about sports culture, but at both, sports will be there if they interest you and need not be a big part of life otherwise. Probably you will have some friends who are on teams and some who are not. You will be able to find people who share your interests at either college.

Here are some differences to consider:

Conn Coll-
-has a school-to-career program that is among the best-developed and most deliberate of any of the top liberal arts colleges. Every student who attends a series of workshops gets a paid summer internship in a field of their choice,
-has the legacy of once being a women’s school, and a ratio that still tilts more female,
-does not have fraternities or sororities,
-is near both beaches and the bustling little tourist area of Mystic,
-may have the edge in dorms (in terms of room size/ singles) but both colleges have nice dorms,
-and you are right that it is less “remote” than Hamilton, as it is within two hours of two major cities.

Hamilton-
-has a completely open curriculum, which is rare among colleges, and which you seem to appreciate,
-has an emphasis on writing, which aligns well with your interests,
-has a greater wealth of resources available to students and a powerful and loyal alumni network (note also the much higher number of alumni, students, and parents posting about it on CC),
-has an amazing record at placing students in grad schools (incl. law school) and jobs,
-has fraternities and sororities, but the fact that they are nonresidential means that they do not overwhelm the culture as they do at other colleges (and yet they may allay your concern about social life; there are plenty of parties at Hamilton, and they are open to all),
-has a great blend of students of varied interests, as is reflected in the lighthearted references to light side/dark side,
-has a very welcoming and friendly culture which is immediately evident upon visiting and has been remarked upon in so many posts here on CC,
-and you are right about its reputation/prestige.

The reverse racism line you heard is completely ridiculous and probably was said by someone who is bitter and prejudiced.

You asked that any bias be noted. No one in my family has attended or worked at either college. We visited, strongly considered, and loved both colleges.

So much to address. It’s very late, but I’ll try to take a few of the questions. I’m a Hamilton Alum, also was accepted to Conn College back in the day. It’s a lovely place. Great vibes at both schools.

I can’t answer the questions about convenience and travel for you - that’s a personal decision.

sI guess my question for you would be, “what do you see yourself doing in 5 years?” Do you see yourself on a grad-school track? If so, I would go with Hamilton. If you’re looking for a job straight out of college that isn’t in govt., finance or consulting, I agree that you might find the career center at Hamilton a bit lacking. (Based on my experience 20+ years ago) As far as your desire to take art courses goes, you should be able to satisfy that itch at Hamilton no problem.

Personally, I feel Hamilton’s focus on writing is invaluable, especially in today’s economy. What the alumni network is like for careers in writing? I don’t know. Alum Paul Lieberstein wrote for and starred as Toby in “The Office” He was a econ major.

The “prejudiced against white people” comment is ridiculous.

Sports culture at Hamilton - first year we went to football and hockey games. After that, unless I was supporting my roommates on the swim team, I never went to any sporting events. It’s Division III, so nobody gets that riled up for anything. At least, that was my experience once we lost our biggest rival, Union College, to Division II football.

Oh, and study abroad is no problem. If you find a program that you like, you just need to get approval from whatever department it would be under. I was able to go to a program in the interior of Argentina. I don’t remember the details, but I don’t recall it being a hassle at all. All credits were accepted.

I posted a reply and then it was flagged - probably because I edited it too many times? I hope it reappears, because I don’t have time to re-draft.

Google Hamilton College and Pub Power or Hamilton College and the Movement. Now, it very well may be that any other northern selective liberal arts college experiences this type of outrage by some of its students. Hamilton’s student demands are clearly documented.

Also worth googling is John Doe vs Hamilton College, where a former student (male) is fighting for his diploma. The actions of the new Dean of Students is worth noting.