Happy premeds at JHU?

<p>How happy are the premed students at JHU? is anyone here a premed at JHU?</p>

<p>I’m a former Hopkins pre-med (now a med student) who had a great time at Hopkins. I really think it depends on how you approach the time at Hopkins. There are some people who are at Hopkins for the sole purpose of getting into medical school, live in the library, and make little effort to enjoy their time there by getting involved in other activities (beyond their resume builders) and I think these people are often miserable at Hopkins, just as they would be at any other school. On the other hand, there are a lot of premeds who get involved in different activities and who find ways to have a great time during their years at Hopkins. The pre-meds at Hopkins are not “segregated” from the rest of the students, neither academically nor socially. As a premed, you can pick any major and get involved in any activity you want so there’s bound to be something that you’ll enjoy doing on campus. I was biomedical engineering and economics double major pre-med and I was involved in a bunch of different things on campus that I loved including the campus EMS unit and a student-run Model UN Conference. Yes, you’ll hear a few people complaining about their premed classes or whining about other things, but I guarantee you’re going to see this at pretty much any school you look into. </p>

<p>You’re also bound to hear rumors about students “destroying other people’s experiments” or “tearing pages out of library books”, but these rumors are just that: rumors. Most pre-meds (maybe with the exception of those few who live in the library) tend to work in groups and study with other people. On days before major exams, the library group study rooms are packed with study groups, and when they asked for student input on the new library building, more group study rooms was one of the top requests. In my major especially (Biomedical Engineering), it was pretty much impossible to complete a lot of the homework if you tried to work by yourself and didn’t work with others. As one of my friends put it right before graduation, “we all got each other through the last four years”.</p>

<p>I hope that helps! Feel free to reply or PM me if you have more questions!</p>

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<p>I think it goes without saying that if you want to be pre-med and go to medical school, Hopkins is not a good place to do it. Read Student Doctor Network and look at MDApps. What matters? Your GPA, MCAT, and extracurriculars. Going to Hopkins will have no bearing on your MCAT (look at the pre-professional website for average Hopkins MCAT score if you don’t believe me – plus, Hopkins applicants are self-selecting so you’d expect a higher average MCAT, but that doesn’t mean that going to Hopkins helped them attain it). Going to Hopkins WILL, however, have a SERIOUS bearing on your GPA.</p>

<p>Believe me. Medical schools do not care where you get a 4.0. A 4.0 from your state school is VASTLY better than a 3.5 or 3.6 at hopkins which, trust me, can be tough to get in the premed prerequisites. You are making getting into medical school much harder on yourself by coming into Hopkins. The pre-professional advising site will give you some statistic that like 99% of people here get into medical school. Sure. <em>A</em> medical school. Not hopkins med, not even a top-20 necessarily, but <em>A</em> medical school. If you do well at ANY 4-year accredited college and score well on the MCAT, you will have just as good a chance at getting into medical school.</p>

<p>How happy are the premeds? I’d say not very.</p>

<p>Happy is relative. </p>

<p>Going pre-med at Hopkins may not mean a slot at Johns Hopkins SOM, but you will be very competitive for other med-schools too. But, regardless of which college attended, your GPA and MCAT score are the most important factors coming out of undergrad - Hopkins SOM wants a 3.85+ and a 35+… </p>

<p>And choice of undergrad major does matter; 80% of Johns Hopkins SOM students earned life/physical sciences degrees, with around 60% in biology.</p>

<p>“And choice of undergrad major does matter; 80% of Johns Hopkins SOM students earned life/physical sciences degrees, with around 60% in biology.”</p>

<p>No, all that this means is that lots of people attending medical school enjoy (or think they should pretend to enjoy) biology in order to get in. You have no data showing the relative acceptance rates for students with science majors versus humanities majors. I’d wager that they are equal, if not slightly in favor of the humanities majors (I’m including things like Public Health as a humanities major, since it’s not pure science).</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins SOM:</p>

<p>Percentage of students with undergraduate major in biological sciences: 57.0%; students with undergraduate major in physical sciences: 24.0 %; students with undergraduate major in social sciences/humanities: 11.0%; and students with undergraduate major in other subjects: 8%.</p>

<p>(Disclaimer: Duke undergrad (Biology), 2000; JHU SOM, 2004; residency at JH Hospital, 2004-2007)</p>

<p>Moonglow – what I was trying to say is that even though that’s the spread, you don’t know if you have a “better chance” at getting in as as science major. I’m saying that people with biology majors are far more likely to apply to medical school than people with, say, history majors. Yet, for those history majors who -do- apply, score well on the MCAT and do well in prerequisite courses, I think they have just as good a chance at getting in most schools as the biology major.</p>

<p>I was talking to my history teacher about what would be the smartest major to pick for getting into a good med program. She said that med programs like to see diverse backgrounds, and that history is actually a fairly prominent undergrad degree for pre-meds (prominent being a relative term, obviously there will always be more science majors). She said this is because schools see history majors as hard workers and very thorough. Is this true or is she just biased? I ask because I’m planning on double majoring in history (it’s my passion) and either chemistry or biochemistry.</p>

<p>Major in history because you want to, not because you think it will help you get into med school. And don’t major in chemistry or biochemistry because you think med schools want to see a science major. If you don’t like chemistry, you’ll hate taking all those required classes and your grades will reflect it.</p>

<p>history is my absolute favorite subject, especially european 1400-1800; if i could, i would go to history class all day. i also love chemistry and biology (cellular and molecular, not ecology), and both are easy subjects for me. i think it would be a good choice as long as my gpa stays at atleast 3.75.</p>

<p>I think overall it’s not the greatest idea to come to Hopkins JUST BECAUSE you want to be a doctor. There is no magic bullet that will give JHU undergrads any more chances into JHU med. I feel like med schools <em>do</em> look at the rigor of your undergrad institution but that’s not enough. </p>

<p>Anyway, I’d say as a premed I’m happy here because I realize that going here isn’t a free pass into med school. And I know I’m worth more than my grades…and that grades are not everything for med school. I may not get into a “top” med school but I’ll get in somewhere, as long as I do my best…and I think of it like this…are all of your doctors and specialists from “top” med schools? One of the best docs I’ve ever had went to a state medical school. :slight_smile: When I had to go to JHHospital for something, I disliked the atmosphere. If you’re really good at having a big picture perspective, then in the very end, it really doesn’t matter where you went.</p>

<p>I do agree that you can go anywhere (well, mostly) and get a great GPA and have great extra activities and whatnot and get into the same types of med schools you would if you came here. The pre med classes here are harder and more rigorous than they are at less intense schools, but hey, if you made a wholistic decision to come here (i.e. NOT just because you want to be a doctor, but because of research, advanced degree, diversity of classes, people, etc reasons) it will be ok. :)</p>

<p>Oh and I’m not saying that you’re doing that (wanting to come to JHU for the pre med only), btw. Also Hopkins doesn’t have a biochem major, fyi. =]</p>

<p>Hey everyone,</p>

<p>Thank you SO MUCH for sharing your experiences. It looks like the general gist is to get a good GPA and a good MCAT and med schools don’t care where you went for undergrad.
BengieBean- JHU doesn’t have a biochem major? Is there something similar? How about cellular biology?</p>

<p>See <a href=“Home | Johns Hopkins University”>Home | Johns Hopkins University; for a complete list of the degrees offered. Pay attention to whether the degree is an undergraduate or graduate degree, and where it is offered.</p>

<p>Thanks YanksDolphins. I’ll be sure to look through that list asap.</p>