<p>In my college, bio and chem are the two hardest sciences and philosophy happens to be the hardest social science. I am a double major bio and philosophy with premed concentration :-P.</p>
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A word about the humanities majors: traditionally they tend to be held in lower regard by the technically oriented majors because, as a friend of my put it, "we take their classes for fun!"
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<p>:rolleyes: Engineering elitism strikes again. Why do I seriously doubt you'd see a ton of engineers have fun in upper-level literature or philosophy classes? Get a serious professor and critical analysis on a "decent enough level" wouldn't cut it anymore, not to mention the fact that engineers aren't exactly known for their prowess in written communication.</p>
<p>Whoever said that different majors would be hard for different people has it right. I would shoot myself if I were an engineer OR an English major. Chemistry and literary criticism make me equally miserable. Philosophy would probably suck too. I loved my FOCUS but it quashed my desire to take any more philosophy classes while in high school.</p>
<p>w00t for Philosophy.</p>
<p>(Philo and Eng double major next year)</p>
<p>Philosophy is universally considered to be within the humanities, numeranator (although it sort of birthed science and social science and incorporates their findings within itself). People, the writing an English major is doing and the writing a physics major are doing are very different things. It's not as if you can hold up something saying "Humanities majors just read and write, and science/math/engineering majors do math in addition to that." The sort of writing one does differs greatly, in addition to the latter group doing much less of it, and usually not progressing to as difficult texts. Also, being able to do math doesn't make you suddenly "well rounded." The majors are hard in somewhat different ways.</p>
<p>"hard" is subjective. each major has its own difficulties, but at the same time you're studying it because 1) you have some sort of knack for it and 2) it's interesting to you in some way. interest makes a class seem not as bad. I mean... you engineers would be hating life if you were fine arts majors. </p>
<p>mass communications is somewhat regarded as a joke major at my school, but I know that I would be absolutely miserable in public speaking courses. so more power to them.</p>
<p>Hey DRab, I have no intention to bash any majors. I was just stating the fact that philosophy major in my college is "considered to be" harder than others within the humanities b/c of the rigorous courses. I am aware that this is not universal, but this is the major conception in my college. Also, I didn't say anything that resembles "I am well-rounded" comment. I am just saying that people here call me crazy b/c I am bio and philo. double major. I agree that you don't have to be double major to be well-rounded. I hope my comment is understood now.</p>
<p>I'm sorry if you thought all that was at you. nurmantator, I didn't think you were trying to bash majors. What I was pointing out to you was that philosophy is considered to be a subject within the humanities, even though it arguably spawned the sciences and social sciences, and uses them within itself. The rest was at some other poster, I just didn't space things well. I agree, philosophy is generally considered to be harder, and I think for good reason. As a philosophy/bio double major, you would be very well rounded educationally speaking, but my comments about that subject weren't directed at you. I'm sorry for causing this misunderstanding.</p>
<p>"sometimes comprehending the text is a bigger challenge; someone can read 20 pages of Hume and Kant and not understand a single thing."</p>
<p>Add Wittgenstein and you have a nervous breakdown! </p>
<p>why do we do it to ourselves? i get some huge buzz once it clicks ... but it can take so bloody long to click sometimes..</p>
<p>I Just did some Ethics and found it was much easier to comprehend but my grades were lower, go figure.</p>
<p>I agree that its highly personaly. In the past I have done economics and accounting and i hated it! I found it much harder than history/philosophy, I think its more because i was so bored by it. It really does help if you have a passion in one area as although it may be tough its a bit less painful.</p>
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"sometimes comprehending the text is a bigger challenge; someone can read 20 pages of Hume and Kant and not understand a single thing."</p>
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<p>This made me laugh pretty good. So true.</p>
<p>DRab, I didn't realize that only the first sentence was referred to me. So, LOL...</p>
<p>Anyway, I agree that hard is relative. My music friends believe that music major is the hardest because of strenuous schedule, but again... everything is relative to a person's ability.</p>
<p>Man, music theory IS hard...</p>
<p>Meh, I'm an Economics and liberal arts double major, and I can safely say Econ upper divs suck to a certain degree, but...</p>
<p>The hardest major though, is probably Physics. It's worse than EECS, and this comes from a friend who is majoring in EECs (a senior who is going to graduate). And by hard, I mean you have to either be a genius and understand it naturally, or you have to study a lot to do well.</p>
<p>(I got a 3 on the AP Physics exam, so I think I'd fail Physics here. To me, it takes a brain that thinks a certain way to understand it properly, or like some say, not understand it because it's not to be understood. )</p>
<p>Yeh i have a friend who got 100% in astrophysics and is also doing law.... he does study and work hard but he has a freakishly smart brain and a photographic memory. No matter how hard i work i doubt i could EVER get 100% (although i suppose in humanities it is a bit harder to get 100%)...</p>
<p>Many people think that math and sciences are the hardest in which to achieve a good grade. But they are objective...either you get the right answer or you don't. I think the same thing that makes humanities "easier" (lack of quantitative measures) also makes it harder. For example, if you get a B or a C on a paper, it is somebody's random opinion of your work. Do you have to constantly remake yourself to please the person reading your work? You can always study harder and get a better grade in math or science, but more work in humanities doesn't always yield a better grade.</p>
<p>Introductory-level science classes are objective in the sense of giving homework problems that have right or wrong answers. But when one gets to be an upper-level student who does research or theoretical work, trust me, it's not as black-and-white as either a right answer or a wrong answer. We only wish the mysteries of the universe were that easy to unravel. ;)</p>
<p>Hey I'm not in college yet but I've always thought it'd be cool to study philosophy, but then I cracked open some books at Borders and was like WHOA! lol whoever said 25 pages and you don't understand a thing was dead-on hilarious. What kinda questions does the prof give out???</p>
<p>Where does statistics rank among hard majors?</p>
<p>My problem with this debate has always been that everyone can do English; not everyone can do engineering. I’m not talking about how well it’s done; given enough time, I am physically capable of writing a 20-page paper, but English majors can’t do my thermo homework. There’s a reason engineers complain all the time.</p>
<p>And in terms of tests vs. papers, sometimes I’d much rather write a paper, because at least you know what’s going to be on it. For a test, you could be really prepared in 99% of the subject matter, but if the test is on that 1% that you only studied moderately, a) you’re screwed and b) you wasted a heck of a lot of time studying.</p>
<p>@Delicatess, It is probably a good idea that I stopped my desire to double major EECS and Physics at Berkeley, and decided to just minor in Physics.</p>
<p>I really love physics though, and am looking forward to it (5 on AP Physics C, but I wouldn’t dare take any AP Humanities). All of the minor courses look really interesting and I wouldn’t have to complete all of the L&S requirements.</p>
<p>Although I definitely think that EECS could be as hard as you wanted to make it, depending on your course choice. EECS and Physics all seems really interesting, so I’m looking forward to it.</p>
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^ List of hardest and easiest majors by GPA</p>
<p>5 Lowest Grade Point Averages
Chemistry 2.78 GPA
Math 2.90 GPA
Economics 2.95 GPA
Psychology 2.98 GPA
Biology 3.02 GPA</p>
<p>5 Highest Grade Point Averages
Education 3.36 GPA
Language 3.34 GPA
English 3.33 GPA
Music 3.30 GPA
Religion 3.22 GPA</p>