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<p>Kal, you say that you will enter USAMO and intel? seriously? how are you so sure that you’ll even get there? i got to the AIME and basically got owned by it. you’re underestimating how difficult it is to even accomplish such feats</p>
<p>LoremIpsum - You’re either a very proud parent, or a very convincing ■■■■■. I haven’t decided which yet.</p>
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<p>^That is simply false. Approximately half of Harvard’s student body consists of hooked applicants: that means around 50% of students accepted did so without any hooks. Don’t report false statistics.</p>
<p>Don’t get the wrong impression, though, kal: Harvard is still a very long shot for you.</p>
<p>Harvard undergrad is a complete crapshoot. If you don’t get in now and are interested in grad school, it’s a lot more straightforward admissions</p>
<p>“Harvard accepted 6.9%”
“Take away the athletes, the legacies, the URMs and the famous or exceptionally talented and you’re down to perhaps 3-4%.
^That is simply false. Approximately half of Harvard’s student body consists of hooked applicants: that means around 50% of students accepted did so without any hooks. Don’t report false statistics.”</p>
<p>wait wait wait
6.9% admitted total
you say 50% who are unhooked were accepted
that would mean around 3-4% were unhooked</p>
<p>i dont see your point</p>
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<p>I said 50% of people accepted were unhooked applicants. I didn’t say 50% of unhooked applicants were accepted…</p>
<p>No, i would say about 40-30% of harvards acceptees are unhooked applicants. Almost every kid that Made it to the USAMO, IMO, and US science olympiads, Intel / Siemens finalist were accepted to harvard. This also includes students that won other outstanding awards like attend a summer institute, etc…</p>
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<p>This ridiculous statement alone should tell you something about your chances.</p>
<p>Lirazel, I have to disagree with your first post in this thread (sorry I haven’t read any other posts). The OP has less than the average applicant’s chances for the simple reason that his target of a 30 on the ACT, which is the equivalent of around 2040, really doesn’t cut it for Harvard.</p>
<p>Yes, his/her ECs are above average, but they definitely aren’t good enough to warrant overlooking his/her ACT/SAT, especially considering the OP has no hooks, as far as I can see.</p>
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<p>What he said (though I also harbor doubts whether he/she’s a parent). In any case, the idea is right.</p>
<p>Yeah, I misread, I thought that that was the MINIMUM she was shooting for, with a good shot at 34+. (I also didn’t read her resume all that carefully.) I’d been trying to refrain from revising my opinion, as the only positive one on this thread, but yeah. OP’s shot is slim, and non-existent unless she scores ~33 on the ACT (I’m not familiar with its scoring system…might be non-existent unless she scores 34? Idk.)</p>
<p>Also comments like “that’s a great idea to improve my ECs! how do would I go about doing that?” are like…no, sweety.</p>
<p>Sorry, OP. You might still manage Harvard law or medicine, as you seem to be on an upward trajectory, but Harvard College seems out of reach unless your ECs, grades, and scores all go up a lot. (Which is always possible.)</p>
<p>^ The problem isn’t so much that you have a minimal chance at getting into Harvard as it is your attitude. It’s your mindset.</p>
<p>Don’t do things for college. Period.</p>
<p>Don’t underestimate the competition. To be honest, your GPA and a 30 ACT means a lot of top schools are reaches, not just Harvard.</p>
<p>Kal, I think that you should go for it. You have good grades, good scores, and decent ECs. Should anyone keep you from applying to Harvard? I don’t think so. Should it discourage you? I don’t think so either.</p>
<p>There are two facts I think admissions professionals are pretty aware of:
- People do things for college.
- Name matters in college selection.</p>
<p>So I’m not saying that you do think this way, but so many others think in this regard as well. </p>
<p>Good luck and keep your head up.</p>
<p>Choose the one you’ll do better in.</p>
<p>And by the way, if you’re going into medicine, your major doesn’t have to be biology or even remotely science-related.</p>
<p>Your major doesn’t matter in applying to med school. As long as you complete the pre-med requirements you can have any major. Biology is the most popular path, but I don’t think you’re at any disadvantage if you apply as say an English major. In fact, the highest % admit rate to medical school belongs to music majors at 66% (but they also have among the least number of applicants, naturally).</p>
<p>Cornell, if you’re lucky.</p>
<p>try ED if your going for Cornell, also look at the top universities/LAC’s list</p>
<p>ED-Early Decision, its a binding agreement where you apply early and if you are accepted you have effectively declared you are attending</p>
<p>LAC- Liberal Arts College (amherst, swarthmore, pomona, williams, ect.)</p>
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[Let</a> me google that for you](<a href=“http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+early+decision]Let”>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+early+decision)
Refer to the admission rates.
[Liberal</a> Arts Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/liberal-arts-rankings]Liberal”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/liberal-arts-rankings)</p>
<p>Say i apply Early Decision to cornell, this means i submit all parts of my app by november. If i am accepted, i am 100% going to attend cornell whether i like it or not because ED is binding.</p>
<p>No, LAC’s are not inherently easier to get into, but most are easier then harvard. From both lists i would suggest Rice, Notre Dame, University of Michigan-Ann Arbor and UVA for universities, and Bates, Barnard (columbias back door for women) and Oberlin.</p>