<p>^ Yale was about the same. I think I remember around $3,600 tuition when I started in 1974, and $4,500 or so four years later. And remember, that was a period of double-digit inflation. (WIN, anybody?) Minimum wage was about $2.25.</p>
<p>Yes, and you could get an 8oz Coke in a bottle out of a machine for a quarter, and my parents used to complain it used to only be a nickel, and now, I think, why doesn’t Coke come in an 8oz bottle, anymore? Who wants more than that?</p>
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<p>In order to end the debate, I would propose the creation of a national admissions clearinghouse or “application service” which would create a standardized application, with some schools perhaps adding “supplements” like in the common app. This application clearinghouse would randomly assign each student a number, and colleges would only see the number and have no access to any personal identifying info (race, legacy status, parental income, etc.). Computer software could identify if people are slipping their name into their essay (accidentally or otherwise) and delete it. Of course, a well connected parent could tip the university off on their son/daughter’s essay topic and stats, but I think much of the accusations of bias could be eliminated, especially accusations about systematic geographic or race bias.</p>
<p>Sounds like a good idea. But I doubt elite schools will opt to use it.</p>
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<p>This would neither end the debate nor serve a single valid purpose. </p>
<p>Like it or not, the holistic type of admission review is superior to all others, and especially to the type of paint-by-the-number this seems to be. Like it or not, race remains an important part of the admission policies as it offers some context to the applications. For what it is worth, the states that have opted for race blind admissions do not exactly represent systems worth adopting. All you have to do is look at how indecisive (not to say clueless) the California system has been to look in another direction. </p>
<p>Further, the real problem of racial preferences is not that they exist, but that we STILL have to rely on them to maintain a modicum of diversity and balance in higher education. The day we can abandon the much maligned Affirmative Action policies would be a day of celebration for all. But it should be a victory because it is no longer needed, not because a chorus of voices of entitlement deafened our sense of social justice.</p>
<p>The reality is, however, much simpler than that. As an applicant, if you feel that a system is unjust or unfair, why be so determined to become part of it. If the values chosen by a school are so wrong, why even want to apply there? After all, aren’t there schools that do NOT have holistic reviews, and are precluded legally to even consider race? </p>
<p>What has happened to the elusive fit?</p>
<p>@ Hanna, offtopic, but you are wrong. You say:</p>
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<p>Forget UChicago for a minute. If you want to work for a Hedge fund, most of the biggest hedge fund guys came out of ACC schools, in particular UVA and UNC and Duke, with the exception of John Paulson, not the Goldman Treasury Secretary, but the hedge fund Paulson, who went to NYU for his undergrad.</p>
<p>If you want to work in Mergers and Aquisitions, the main thing is that you are a part of the Lacrosse Mafia. Some of them went to Ivies, but the main connection between them all is Lacrosse.</p>
<p>Many have gone to grad school at Harvard, some have not. But, the Ivies are not what the people on CC think they are, in terms of getting a job in finance. No matter what you might think. Trust me. It’s a fallacy. This is a world I really do know.</p>
<p>I’m not saying going to these schools isn’t a positive, it is, but you are really giving out misinformation to a whole bunch of kids when you say these kind of things which just aren’t true.</p>
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<p>Finally! Finally, we now can make valid comparisons. ACC versus Ivy League! Can we please add the Big 10 --or Big 20 or whatever how many there are in the Legends and Leaders Leagues.</p>
<p>The Big 10, a league with 12 universities.</p>
<p>We’ve been talking big ten, twenty, thirty. Since Northwestern has been mentioned. :p</p>
<p>What league does Stanford play in? I can never remember.</p>
<p>And, didn’t Warren Buffet go to Oklahoma, or something? What league do they play in?</p>
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<p>Well, Warren would contribute to an interesting athletic conference discussion. He went from Penn to Nebraska. So you’d have a bit of Ivy League and with UNL a bit of Big 10, Big 12, or … what is it again today? It probably was Big 7 for Nebraska when WB left the Ivy League. And the term Ivy League might have been unknown to 99.9999 percent of the world population in the late Forties. Actually, it still is, but that is another story. :)</p>
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Coca Cola still comes in 8 oz bottles. Not in most vending machines, but still readily available. But, its more than a quarter…</p>
<p>Yes, Jym, I think the only thing that still costs a quarter these days is a quarter. :)</p>
<p>I miss those glass bottles, though.</p>
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<p>PAC-10 - along with some other selective schools such as Berkeley and UCLA but also with some not-so-selective ones such as Washington State or Arizona State. One thing that is unusual about the Ivy league is that the ALL schools are selective.</p>
<p>We live next door to our city’s Coca Cola building. H wants to throw some Pepsi bottles on their lawn. Coke here doesn’t taste exactly same as back at home.</p>
<p>Don’t they use real sugar in the soda where you are? </p>
<p>My youngest likes Pepsi better than Coke. :eek: My husband wants a dna test.</p>
<p>I think it’s the water.:)</p>
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<p>Many people prefer the Coca cola bottled in Mexico (produced by the Femsa bottlers) as they use cane sugar. US uses high fructose corn syrup. You can get the 8 oz bottles of US bottled Coke in supermarkets and even Warehouse stores like Sams (not seen it at Costco in a while). You can get the Femsa/Mexico bottled coke in many Mexican food stores. I saw Coke bottled in Mexico at Big Lots earlier this week. 8 oz bottles for $1 each. The Kosher for Passover coke is sweetened with sugar made from beets rather than corn. Many think it is from sugar cane, but I don’t believe that is correct.
Ok-- major digression. Too much information. Back to discussions of overpriced colleges, not overpriced sugar water.</p>
<p>Oh-- oldfort-- hope above post explains in part why it tastes different there. Its also the water…</p>
<p>If you ever get down here, I will buy you a coke. It’s 60 pesos for a can from our vending machine - $.5 USD.</p>