Harvard PhD in Government - HELP needed

<p>Hi everyone,
I am an Australian student looking to get into the Harvard PhD in Government and/or Social Policy.
I really need some help in finding out the average profile of successful and unsuccessful applicants, as there is no info re this on their website. I understand it's very competitive and I'd like to find out if unsuccessful applicants were unsuccessful because they didn't meet the GRE and GPA requirements. Basically I'd like to find out the minimum GRE and GPA requirements for this course (what will get my application thrown out without even a look at my personal statement)? In other words, how come so many applicants aren't successful? Are they just aiming too high?</p>

<p>I'd also like some help on converting my grades to a GPA, as we run on a British system at Melbourne Uni - from what I understand an H1 is an A+ or A, H2A an A/A-, H2B about a B+ and so on. There's no grade inflation, everything is marked on a strict bell curve, and you need at least an H2B to get into an honours year. I average an H2A over all courses, which I figure is an A-/A, can someone tell me what that would be out of 4.0?</p>

<p>I'd also like to know more about Advanced Placement (skipping a year of coursework) as I have a research Masters degree.</p>

<p>My profile:
Double degree in Asian studies, French and Media
Upper second class honours in Public Policy
Masters degree in Social Policy</p>

<p>Excellent references, although the referees won't be well-known to US professors</p>

<p>GRE: Haven't sat it yet. Would like to know what to aim for.</p>

<p>Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.</p>

<p>I have never seen a profile of unsuccessful applicants...anywhere. Some schools list means for their incoming classes (e.g. "average 3.5 undergraduate GPA" or "most successful applicants received at least a 700 on the verbal section of the GRE" or some such), but I would be shocked to find any publicly available information on the average stats of their applicants compared to those of those accepted.</p>

<p>You probably haven't read these boards much, or you would have seen something posted along these lines in one of every five threads: there is no hard and fast rule regarding GPA or GRE "minimums" beyond the obvious (at least as high as you're talking; they don't throw people out for 3.8's, but they probably wouldn't entertain high hopes for someone with less than a 3.5 at Harvard). Same for GRE, though I would think somewhere between 750-800 in verbal/analytical would be typical for someone of your background. Not sure what they would want for quantitative...maybe 600 min.?</p>

<p>Here's the problem with GPA conversions: some schools do half-grades, and some don't. My university does, so an A is worth 4.0 points, an A- is 3.67, a B+ is 3.33, a B is 3.0 etc. We calculate GPA by multiplying the points from the grade by the credit hours. Example: for a semester in which a student takes 13 credit hours, say his classes consist of two 3-credit lectures, one 4-credit language, a 2-credit lab, and a 1-credit filler. He gets an A in the first lecture, a B in the second, an A- in the language and lab, and a C in the filler because he didn't take it seriously and forgot to show up a couple of times.</p>

<p>(3<em>4.0+3</em>3.0+4<em>3.67+2</em>3.67+1*2.0)/5 classes = 3.26</p>

<p>If the pluses and minuses were discarded, like they are at some colleges, it would be</p>

<p>(3<em>4.0+3</em>3.0+4<em>3.0+2</em>4.0+1*2.0)/5 classes = 3.4</p>

<p>I can't tell you what your A/A- average would be because I don't know which classes you received which grades in. I would guess a 3.7 or 3.8, but that could swing drastically depending on the class.</p>

<p>Don't worry about the professors not knowing your professors. Do you think they know every professor in the US? We're a big country...and not everybody who gets into Harvard graduate programs comes from another Ivy. </p>

<p>Having answered some of your questions, I must admit I don't think they're the right questions to ask. Fifty stellar students, all with GPAs of 3.8-4.0, GRE verbals of 750-800, research experience and perhaps several applicable degrees, probably apply to your program each year. They're sorted out by fit, funding, professorial temperament, and blind luck. It's not the sort of place you get into because you're a good student and they're a good school--it's incomprehensible and darned near impossible to predict success.</p>

<p>Harvard has an international reputation, which is probably why you're aiming for it. But it gets much too much press time compared to its real worth as an institution of higher learning. Yes, it churns out papers. Yes, it turns away students by the droves, and exclusion is supposed to be some sort of distinction of quality. What about the dozens of other wonderful universities here? Everyone says they want to go to Harvard, and I think it's mostly because they never hear about anything else. I imagine that if you ask most people outside the US to name an American university, the knee-jerk reaction is "Harvard," just like asking Americans to name a British university will turn up nothing besides "Oxford" (and asking them about Canadian universities will give you some variation of "huh?")</p>

<p>All of what the previous poster said is true, with 2 minor but important amendments: first, Harvard gets about 400 applications per year for the PhD in Government (less for Social Policy, but that is a much smaller program), and admits about 30. Second, the quantitative GRE score is crucial - your odds of admission go down sharply unless you can break 700 for that section.</p>

<p>One more thing - don't count on placement or skipping a year - one of the requirements of the program is a certain amount of coursework in political science as Harvard wants you to learn it...</p>

<p>I also would consider how many internationals Harvard takes for their graduate school. I don't know the statistic, but it is on their website.
Found this on there too if it helps:
"Applicants who wish to pursue a degree at the Graduate School must hold the equivalent of a US bachelor's degree (BA or BS) from an institution of recognized standing. The following guidelines apply to undergraduate programs outside the US: </p>

<pre><code>* British-patterned education: bachelor's degree with honours "
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<p><a href="http://www.gsas.harvard.edu/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gsas.harvard.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The department accepts lots of international students - I wouldn't be too concerned about that...</p>