harvard, stanford, uchicago, and gergetown?

<p>chance me at: hyp, brown, dartmouth, ucberkeley, ucla, georgetown, uchicago, duke, mit(economy?), ucsd as a safety
im a junior btw</p>

<p>stats:
SAT: 680(cr), 790 (M), 670(W)-only time i took sat, i might take it one more time
SAT II:800(korean), hoping AT LEAST 750 for US history and MAth 2c this may
GPA: All A's except for one B in spanish this year (enrolled in Full IB but i also take some AP classes)
Rank:top 5 out of like 600
Recommendations: im pretty sure i will get reall good recs from teachers cuz they know what ive been through and stuff
Hook: im a first generation immigrant and have gone through alot of crap in my life(my dad got fired and we had to move out of state during my sophomore year and i had to get a job to support my family last year), I'm also a passionate wrestler (may go to state in CA senior season)
Extra: im very involved in church with plenty of volunteer hours, played variety of sports during my hs including football, wrestling, soccer, track but im now concentrating on wrestling(captain, MVP junior year, won couple tournaments, CIF) for the last two years of high school, involved in several clubs at school, i moved from WA to CA my sopho
im also attending Harvard's SSP this summer and have a steady job at jamba juice</p>

<p>you really need to improve your SATs to get into any of the schools you mentioned.
Very high reach- HYP, Brown, Dartmouth, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, U of Chicago, Duke, MIT
match- UCSD</p>

<p>If you can improve your SAT I by at least 150pts, I would say you stand a good chance. You should try taking the ACTs. If you get a 34+, I would say you also stand a good chance.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>P.S. - I love jamba juice! They finally started opening them in Florida.</p>

<p>Hmm, I'm not sure if what Pistolen said is correct. I applied for, and was accepted to UC Berkeley and UC San Diego; my SAT score as 1850. I had a 3.85 UW and a 4.21 Weighted gpa. I also know a lot of other people in my school who got into San Diego with <1800 SAT score. My friend who I know personally had a 1600 and got into Berkeley (he had about a 3.98 GPA though). </p>

<p>I'd say UCBerkeley and UC San Diego is a safe match for you, don't take my words as gospel though.</p>

<p>^^ so, you're going to base someone's chances on what happened to you personally? That sampling size is way too small for accuracy. It makes no sense to generalize based on one or two cases. An 1850 is 200 points or so below Berkeley's average. A 1600 is an extreme outlier.</p>

<p>Berkeley is a safe match for very, very few students, and a safety for no one.</p>

<p>To the OP: what is your GPA? As it stands, I'd say Berkeley is a slight reach (50-50), and UCSD is a safety (ELC). I assume your GPA is strong.</p>

<p>take the sats again just to see if you do better on cr. your ec's seem pretty decent. if you write a good essay (which you could do by talking about managing the challenges youve faced in your life along with your ec's) you prolly have a decent shot at all of those except for maybe harvard or mit, but who knows?</p>

<p>kyledavid80: everyone in my school, except for one or two people was accepted to Berkeley with an SAT score under 2000, which is around nine or ten people. It certainly is a small sample size, but I just want people to know that it is possible and to stop shutting people down and telling them that they have no chance, when they actually do. I agree, that SAT score can and should be raised, but if he can't, he still has a very very decent shot at Cal.</p>

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<p>Exactly -- in your school. That isn't enough to make a generalization. It's not right to mislead the OP because you can't distinguish a small and unrepresentative sampling size and reality.</p>

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<p>I never said it wasn't.</p>

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<p>Could you point out where I said they have no chance? No, you can't, because I never said it. Notice that I said Berkeley is a slight reach for the OP. That means 50-50. Last I heard, 0 is 'no chance' and 50 is greater than 0.</p>

<p>You people are a bit crazy. He has a 2140, which isn't stellar, but you have to have a very demented view to say he would only have a chance if he got a 2300. Berkley accepts tons and tons of people who get below 1800 on their SAT - just go look at their website and such. He likely is currently near their 65th percentile with those scores. </p>

<p>However, yes, still raise that SAT. It would be nice.</p>

<p>I agree with ^. Many people on CC have this twisted view that your SAT scores have to be in like the top 75th percentile of a school to even be competitive, which is not the case at all. I can think of two people from my school off the top of my head that were accepted to Berkeley OOS, which is very much harder than IS. Both had scores around 2100.</p>

<p>I would say in at all UCs except Berkeley, competitive at Berkeley, Gerogetown, and UofChicago (all those are slight reaches). The Ivy's are crapshoots; I would prepare yourself for a rejection. Duke and MIT are also extremely selective, for those schools you will need a bit higher SAT score to be considered truly competitive for admission.</p>

<p>I agree with posts #3, 8 & 9. To be fair, however, it would be better to have a 700 or a bit higher on the CR score of your SAT I. Of the non-UC schools--10 of 12 listed--listed in your original post, all are reaches for anyone regardless of SAT I scores. The two best "Ivy League quality academics" opportunities remain the University of Chicago & Northwestern University as both offer at least a 25% chance of admission and both offer academics superior to some of the more prestigious schools.</p>

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<p>Er, not "tons" of people. Even if you look at the score ranges, you can't say "since the 25th percentiles are xyz, 25% of the student body got below x+y+z." It doesn't work that way--the reported ranges are for individual sections, not composite scores. Yes, many with lower SAT scores are accepted, but "tons" is misleading.</p>

<p>It wasn't his SAT score that I said 'slight reach.' It was his somewhat bland ECs and lack (?) of honors/awards that set him apart from others. First-gen immigrant status may help; great essays would make it a high match.</p>

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<p>I think this goes along with what generally happens: Berkeley is very hard to get into as an OOSer, but even then, they de-emphasize SATs, so you don't need a 2300+ to get in OOS.</p>